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Gavin Wakely

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When running a turbo motor, what are the deciding factors when choosing a diff! Is it true that a combination of high torque and low revs would point to a diff selection quite low ie: 3.4 for 10" wheels and 3.7 for 13" wheels

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As always with diff ratios there is no "right" answer, different people favour different approaches.

I know of people with quick turbo minis running diff ratios from 2.95:1 right through to 3.7:1.


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AlexF2003

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Slighty longer than for a NA seems good... you have buckets more torque all the way with a turbo, coupled with the fact you don't need to rev the knackers off them to get the performance.

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i will never ever run 13"s again with a turbo regardless off diff

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On 25/07/2006 16:08:06 wolfie said:

i will never ever run 13"s again with a turbo regardless off diff


Why? Not a criticsm, just wondering?

I've gone from 12-13-10 and i have to admit there aint much in it performance wise with an optamised setup on each (i.e not the same)

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


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no?!?!

Why not?

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had stupid amounts of torque steer, and 10's look better *wink*

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Almost the same foot print, 10's 12's 13's so where does the torque steer come from?

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On 25/07/2006 17:40:14 wolfie said:

and 10's look better *wink*


that be true :cool:

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


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On 25/07/2006 17:40:14 wolfie said:

had stupid amounts of torque steer, and 10's look better *wink*


I also found the same, although ym old 13's did hav a deep offset which didn't help.

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I think the welsh one has it right!


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On 25/07/2006 18:44:54 Jimster said:

I also found the same, although my old 13's did have a deep offset which didn't help.


same as me jim

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I think the ride is a lot better on my tens compared to my thirteens think this must be due to the tyre profile acting as a suspension!

Edited by Star Mag on 25th Jul, 2006.


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think i'm on a 3.9. whatever the migs run.

bit low but something i'll change when i get the thing up and running! got a tall first gear to drag though plus the engine should rev to 7k ish.

we'll see. if you dont try it you'll never know! not a big thing to change.


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On 25/07/2006 18:44:54 Jimster said:

On 25/07/2006 17:40:14 wolfie said:

had stupid amounts of torque steer, and 10's look better *wink*


I also found the same, although ym old 13's did hav a deep offset which didn't help.


I didnt, maybe thats the difference, or maybe its because i only had 85bhpish *laughing**laughing**laughing**laughing*

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


Turbo Tim

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3.1 on 10s I found to be the best for me

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Gavin - diff needs to match the torque curve and rpm capability of the engine, hence big torque low rev turbo motors (6500ish) wouldn't perform best on a 3.9 diff and 10's, whereas peaky n/a motors with powerbands 4-8k would perform well with 3.9 diff and 10's - its all about maximising thrust at the wheels v road speed.

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Gavin - send me your torque curve/ gear ratios and I'll do a gear cascade diagram for your car - may even overlay my K1100 one onto it as well for comparison!!!!!

If Carling made Mini engines
it would probably be like this one!


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well i run a challenge gearset

with 2.95:1 diff on 13s

the shove of the turbo motor just pulls it through!

this is the right gear ratio for chav bashing and scobie spanking IMHO........lol *laughing**laughing*






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Well I run a 4.1 on 13", so stick that in your pipe and eat it.

Of course, this would be rubbish on the road, but it's great for the drag strip and the hills.

For a 998 turbo road car I think I'd start with a 3.44 and 12" and see what it felt like.

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iain
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Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do!

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so my 3.9 might not be too bad then. cool!

as i said, if you dont try it you wont know!


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Gavin - before we get too excited whats the spec of the turbo motor and whats it too be used for?

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Nic

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are you using a lsd?

am i right in thinking you cant get smaller than a 3.65 for them?

how do people manage?


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im running a 3.9cwp on an lsd and tbh i found it ran out of legs on the strip. i was hitting 6500ish rpm before i hit the 1/4 and it just wouldnt pull any more. thats on a kent 266 cam, pretty well spec'd 1380 turbo on 10's. it might have found a bit more on the top end if it was set up properly but i didnt have time or money to get it sorted before avon. it felt like i hit a brick wall tbh and i noticed when i got it back that i never updated my megajolt map to take on the higher rpm limit. my map only goes up to 6k revs, although i dont know if that will have any efect on anything, or if it will just hit the max advance and hold it?
i think you can get down to a 3.44 diff on an lsd now from minispares, but they were having some trouble with them and i couldnt get one at the time i got my lsd :S
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I have a 3.44 with my LSD

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


1st to provide running proof
of turbo twinkie in a car and first to
run a 1/4 in one!!

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Nic

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how did you do that? is it one of carls modded ones

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