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Hello,

as some may know im not oficially turbo powered yet but look to in the very near future. Somebody must be able to help me as im trying to find a supplier that will supply the full engine/ gearbox/turbo kit, everything to make it run. Just curious of price whilst im making my plans. Does anybody happen to have a link they could give me please?

Also do ya reckon its advisable to buy it as a ready made package or start from scratch and build it myself?

Thankyou, Stevo

Cheers, Stevo

get a reputable engine builder to build you one (or machine so you can build yourself). Kits arent often the best value for money or quality. Also they arent tailored to what you probably need whereas an engine builder can make a package up to suit you.

that makes sense, Ok well if I was to have one built I would do it myself with the support and guidance of my boss. Basically where do I start? What engine do I need? new? used? And where to get it from.

Cheers, Stevo

you need to consider what your budget is and what exactly you want in terms of power. engine and gearboxs could be bought from many mini engine specialists but will be quite expensive (ive not had any dealings with any so cant recommend none)not sure if anyone does a full turbo kit so read through some old posts and look what is needed in the how to section and get yourself a list. put some wanted posts on here or look on ebay.

the best way to start in my opinion is to find a good running metty turbo BUT these are getting very rare now.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Ok thanks

Metty turbos rare meaning price's going one way

Cheers, Stevo

you only need a 1275 if your going for a full rebuild, getting a metty turbo engine is a waste of money if your getting new pistons etc.

What sort of spec are you after?

Or even simpler, how much power do you want?

What you need is the following:

assuming you are going for a complete rebuild.

1275 engine (any type)
turbo with manifolds
carb and mainolds including plenum
Turbo exh down pipe
fuel lines
Fuel pressure regulator (from a metro turbo)
Fuel pump

Alex

AlexF

O rite. So I got the getting started list from the other section written down now where it says get a metty turbo engine.

So do I still follow the advise for the other parts like metty fuel pump, regulator, modded tank etc?

Is it advisable from experience to use a 1275 or is it just as good to use a bigger engine?

I asume that because of a rebuild it dont matter whether its a used engine or not?

Sorry bout all the questions just trying to work this one out, lol

Cheers

Cheers, Stevo

alex, I want an easy 120-130 bhp

Cheers, Stevo

used engine, keep to +20 as these are the easiest pistons to get i believe.

120/130 is easy to get with a few choice mods such as cam/good head and the right boost and ignition settings.

If your planning a complete rebuild it doesnt matter what 1275 you start with :) The advantage to that is that there are loads and loads of non-turbo 1275s kicking around. You won't find a new/un-used engine, but they are nice and cheap as well as easy to rebuild.

120/130 is easy, I would go for:

1293 (+20 thou rebore)
Re-Worked head, 8.5:1 CR, std valves
MG Metro cam

Should give you a very nice 120-130 without need for an intercooler or expensive pistons.

Alex

AlexF

(20+ thou rebore)

8.5:1 CR, std valves

Them two line make no sense , help?

Cheers, Stevo

20+thou means a 1275 engine bored out 20 thousands of an inch with bigger pistons fitted this makes the engine 1293cc.

8.5;1CR means what your compression ratio needs to be to run a more boost.

std valves means use standard valves in your head

your probably best ringing a few engine companys and explaining what you are after to get a price.

also you need a good gearbox. and dont forget to allow money for any unexpected surprises like the turbo you buy on ebay being knackered or the carb thats been on somebodys garage shelf for 5 yrs needs a rebuild

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

lol ok thanks minime

Cheers, Stevo

are you planning to build this engine yourself?

Alex

AlexF

with the help of my boss id like to, but we'll see. Dunno how far his knowledge goes to be honest as he was brought up on HGV'S which dont help. why do you ask?

Cheers, Stevo

Guessing he asks since if you dont know what +20 rebore and 8.5 compression are then you need to do some more research before attempting a build! (no offence meant mind )

120/130bhp and reliable needs to be a very good build otherwise it wont last.

Iain is right...

I admire anyone wanting to build their own engine, its how I learnt after all, but without enough knowledge up front you can make some very costly and annoying mistakes!

Were abouts are you in the country? I'd certianly be willing to give you a hand if your local to me.


Alex

AlexF

Yeah I understand what you are both saying. Thats why im asking advise etc etc of the people that know, you. Trying to take in as much as possible at the mo, im still only 18 so plenty of time. Its summink I want to learn about for personal use and in the future to make a few quid on, so that said,I WILL learn what needs to be learnt. The thought of driving summink ive built is what drives me to do it myself. But all help would be appreciated. I dont spect I live near you - Somerset.

Cheers

Cheers, Stevo

Nah I'm in Berkshire...

Still I'm sure theres plenty of peeps on here willing to help via the net.

Alex

AlexF

I'd recomend getting machining (block and crank) done at a reputable firm that specialises in mini engines.
As a tip, if they don't ask what pistons you're running, or (even better) a sample of one of your intended pistons, go somewhere else...

If you discuss with most places what you want to do - ie be supplied a correctly prepared block and crank - which you can assemble yourself without fear of it being machined over/under tolerance, most will help you out. OAP, Swifty, BRR, Morspeed are all in the south of England, take your choice from that list...

Incidentally, Minispares 'mega' turbo pistons are a good start for what you want... dirt cheap and a good strong design.

Edited by turbodave16v on 9th Jul, 2004.

Ii'm not trying to make a sale but give me a ring at Avonbar. 01279 873428. Ask for Roland. I can get you a quote but it won't be cheap.

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I am trying to sell...

GIve Simon at morspeed a ring... better prices and a better engine!

Alex

AlexF

So turbo dave what you are saying is to buy a block that has been machined as standard if you like, along with the crank and go from there?

Then I would have to locate head, gearbox and turbo equiptment from elsewhere?

Cheers, Stevo

I think TD is saying get hold of a block and then get it machined to your specification but too a good standard (as in quality).

BUying a kit of matched parts from the same supplier is probably easier for your 1st build, that way you know all the bits will work together. Morspeed can do this for you?



Alex

AlexF