THIS IS AFFECTING OUR INDUSTRY!!!!!
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i recived this email today so thought i would do my bit and post this on nere.


> THIS IS AFFECTING OUR INDUSTRY!!!!!
>
> PLEASE READ AND PASS IT ON BECAUSE IF WE ALL SPENT AS MUCH TIME TAKING
> NOTICE OF THIS EMAIL AS WE DO MOANING ABOUT RISING FUELS COSTS WE MIGHT JUST
> BE ON TO SOMETHING HERE.
>
>
> See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it
>
> We are hitting £1.20.9 a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with
> paying £1.50 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:
>
> This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day
> campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
> laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by
> refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a
> problem for them. BUT,whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan
> that can really work.
>
> Please read it and join in!
>
> Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
> think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action
> to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the
> price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.
> The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit
> someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that
> WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:
>
> For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil
> companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
>
>
> If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their
> prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow
> suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and
> BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
>
> Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how
> simple it is to reach millions of people!!
>
> I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at
> least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten
> more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the
> sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
> consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten
> friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes
> one level further, you guessed it... ..
>
> THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>
> Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy
> at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email
> out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people
> could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we
> can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message
> on.
>
> PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
>
> It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol
> at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and
> Esso
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This is bullshit, has been peddled around every time there is a discussion about fuel.

Considering the profits actually made on fuel at the pump the companies are more than likely to say bollocks to this and shut up shop.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

As above. It's also worth considering that BP supplies fuel to places such as Tescos. It's not the oil companies we need to hit, it's the government.

its the fooking theiving barstuard goverments that need teaching a lesson, not really the oil companies.


carl

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We've got the same campaign in Norway as well. Junk. Petrol is cheap!

My parents went to Bolivia a couple of months ago. Petrol was the same over there. It's also the same in Turkey. A normal wage those two places is approx £200 a month. Shut up, petrol is cheap!

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

i know, lets just not buy petrol on a wednesday, then they will REALLY get the message!!!!

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Edited by turbodave16v on 28th May, 2008.

As above, the price of "oil" is determined across the globe. Nothing we in the UK can really do to change that as North Sea stocks are well depleted.
The fact is our fuel (petrol/diesel) prices are set far more by TAX than the cost of the base product.
So don't blame the oil companies, they just respond to the supply/demand market. Most of the rise in prices at the pumps is TAX, ie, a large percentage tax on a small price rise.

Rant over.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

if you t5hink petrol is expensive, think how amny miles of pipes it travels through on its journey to the pumps,being transformed from a thick gooey oil to a crist clean fuel you put into you car tank,

at £5.50 a gallon,
now take lager, it spends a few weeeks being converted from water, of which nominally 95% of it remains, and you pay any thing from £10.00 to £15.00 a gallon, lol.

its simply the taxation the goverments levy that make it soo expensive,

but hey!!, with all the pubs closing all over the uk, there is a vast cash deficite to recoup in taxes, and someones got to pay, and what do you know ,its the motorist again,


carl

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no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

i like cookies :) tbh thats all bullshit we complain but we will still carry on buying it, we just need to ask out workplaces for a cost of living pay rise

Edited by Paul R on 28th May, 2008.

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That is just bollox

I work in and around the petrochem industry. Its not the oil companies that are hiking the price of a barrel of oil, thats very real. Its also not that the oil is running out either. Its the fact that the demand is overtaking supply. Its the investment by OPEC in new 'light' crude oil fields that yeild the spirits that are used to produce petrolium and deisle. The oil is there, we are just not extracting it, (A) becasue its in areas that are difficult to reach (deep sea) and (B) because its too expensive to drill for (results in expensive oil anyway)

So, what oil is available the price goes up because the demand is high. Now i hear you say, 'what about the huge stock piles that these oil companies have?' well, if there wasnt any stock pile, the slightest stop of oil production, the pumps would run dry VERY quickly. This stock pile is a buffer to the supply/ demand. As long as the supply meets the demand the stock pile does not change, but as soon as supply sarts to fall behind demand, the stock pile starts to be used. This acts as a buffer so production can be stepped up, by either buying oil from somewhere else or turning up the production in the oil fields.

So, the price of oil is not the doing of the oil companies, but more to do with the fact that in the last ten years oil consumption has rocketed and new oil fields can take almost this time to come on line.

Anyone considering a fuel blockade are only protesting against themselves, not the oil companies, after all, who uses the fuel in the end. If no one bought fuel, the supply would be greater than demand and the price would drop.

If you want lower oil prices, dont buy fuel!!

Edited by Sprocket on 28th May, 2008.

Im glad ive got a fuel card, can't say I ever look at the price per litre! Lol

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Also...sneaky shops have put vegatable oil up to!!!!! Almost the same price as diesel in some shops! Fuckers!

One thing i dont understand is whatt these hauliers are going on about, maybe its just that i dont know the industry, but if fuel prices go up, the cost of haulage goes up and the end user has to pay the extra, what has this to do with the personal wallets of the hauliers, except maybe they are trapped within a contract at a set price, in which case its their own fault for not thinkinng ahead and writing in a disclaimer. And no Im not after an argument with the hauliers, like i said, i dont know the industry.

Im just tired of it being some one elses fault other than the person that is affected, we all play a role in what happens to our lifes, lets take responsability for that.

I had a heated debate recently with my older brother ( older brothers suposed to be wiser, LOL). He recently bought a Landy Disco to tow the twin axle five berth caravan. He is complaining of the cost of the road tax, and now the cost of fuel. I simply said, why do you have a five berth caravan that demands the Landy to tow it when there is only two of you, and his reply was, 'because thats what i want' and i replied ' well then take the hit for the tax and pay the fuel, it was your choice in the first palce, not the governments!!'

Sorry for the rant, but its for these reasons I get annoyed. Its always some one elses fault, aparently.

Edited by Sprocket on 28th May, 2008.

Edited by Sprocket on 28th May, 2008.

i can see what your saying mr sprocket but i dont nessasary agree, you make it sound like your happy paying 1.20p per litre (for now)?

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Thats just it, i dontt, the company pays, the company chrges more and the customer pays, its part of my wages, and why the actual salary im onn is less. Its business no? dont any one start saying its a peeerk, as i pay the tax and get paid less for what i do because i have thee use of tthe car and the fuel.

Maybe thats the problem.

am happy to fill up the mini with V power every time, and the wife fills her car up every two weeks with regular unleaded, so its nott as if i dont feel it in my pocket. and I do remember filling up my seconnd mini and only paying 57p per litre

Edited by Sprocket on 28th May, 2008.

wish i could convert my car to run on farts coz there free and i seem to have an endless supply.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Dunno mate the technology is there, they are already doing it with pig shit. Mine you I could see there being a shortage of, Hienz's finest

Totally agree with you Colin. I never understood what the hauliers arguments were about. The cost of fuel has gone up so I put my costs up, simple.

Now don't get me started on fireman and police strikes.

Still it cost me nearly £30 to fill up the mini yesterday, and that's a record

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

I agree with the haulage companies, especially the smaller firms. Fuel gone up approx 20% in the last year and then theres the road tax. That 20% has got to come from somewhere.....
Has a knock on effect with everything. Look at food prices shooting up.

well i worked out that at the moment it costs me about an extra 8 quid a week in petrol just to get to work and back (if me sums are correct lol) have a 1.3 corolla so resonably good on fuel.

and if hauliers put there prices up then who ever there delivering stuff for puts there prices up then when we buy the stuff it costs us more so were still paying as i see it.

my 2p worth dont know the solutions and dont understand why its so expensive just know it always the working class that suffer

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Hauliers can't put their prices up too much as people will move to other hauliers - ones from europe who pay less for petrol.

Kick this govt out before they cripple the country.