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Keith Timpson

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gr4h4m, as requested I have taken a few pictures of the radiator cowling.

The reasoning behind it was that with the mechanical fan removed I would need to try and get a clearer path for air to the radiator. As I only had one mint Mk1 radiator cowl I did not want to start chopping sections out of it, so decided to copy it in aluminium and adapt to suit what I wanted. The plan was (and still is) to make a section from the front panel to the radiator to direct the air where I want it to go, however there has not been any issues yet and it runs between 70-80 degrees, climbing to 90-95 degrees when not moving after a hard run. The Kenlowe fan seems to manage really well.

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Nice job, pretty much identical to mine

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Cheers Paul, I'm sure it's not up the standards of The Master! It's amazing what a hammer, a lump of steel and some patience can achieve. It's quite therapeutic really...

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Its all just whacking with hammers and lumps of steel, pretty easy TBH.
Ill show you a pic of mine tommorrow Keith, I only made it a few weeks ago to replace the steel one that Ive been running for about 4 years.

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great job Keith thanks for the pics

it looks very neat. I have a standard on my car, they are a bit of a pain to get on and off. love the ally one.

Paul are you going to add these to your list of parts for sale?

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I would but the list would take a month to type out. Its easier to say "I can make most things, just ask"

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Heres mine. Its slightly different cos the radiator sits lower in the car and its an alloy Radtech one.



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both,nice job!
which make is this water pump,
so you ditch the water pump and cooling fan, and only keep an electrical one?
I'm interested. how many fan speed are you using, how are they triggered?
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Same setup as mine.
Using a bosch pump.
Ditch the standard pump and fan.
Replace fan with thermostatic electric one.

But how are you controlling the flow rate of the pump Paul.? Or is it taking a direct current. e.g Flat out.

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Exactly as you say Si, and yes flat out

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"flat out"? as a fuel pump, +12v and that's it?
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Thought that would be the case Paul.

As with everything else of yours. FLAT OUT..! *tongue*

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Yes, flat out. I cant remember what the flow rate is though.

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Very nice as usual Paul! Yours seems to have less hammer marks round the lip! Ideally I would have liked to TIG the joins on mine but thats beyond me just now (equipment and skills) so rivets had to do.

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Fitting an electric fan on the inner gaurd to help airflow is always good ( low speeds )

I also angled my rad as much as possible for better frontal airflow.

Id think that if you could shroud the radiator exit, to ensure all air passsing through had to exit the inner guard, it would also help. Instead of the hot air being allowed back into the engine bay, and so all air drawn via the fan, goes thru the rad, as opposed to some drawn from the engine bay

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On 1st Jun, 2009 stevieturbo said:


Id think that if you could shroud the radiator exit, to ensure all air passsing through had to exit the inner guard, it would also help. Instead of the hot air being allowed back into the engine bay, and so all air drawn via the fan, goes thru the rad, as opposed to some drawn from the engine bay


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Keith

you need to touch up the paint on the rad - its looking a bit scabby these days

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have you any pics of the fan set up as i'm curious as to where they are in the wing or on the rad and if they suck or blow.....fyi i do niether so no pm's about that *hehe!*

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Wow where do i get that electric pump from, it looks oem!?
Do tell..


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On 2nd Jun, 2009 t@z said:
have you any pics of the fan set up as i'm curious as to where they are in the wing or on the rad and if they suck or blow.....fyi i do niether so no pm's about that *hehe!*


I don't have any pictures but will take some at the weekend. It is a 10" Kenlowe fan mounted on the inner wing under the arch sucking through the radiator. The kit came with their electronic controller that uses a probe pushed into the top of the core just where the top hose enters. Not exactly cheep buying from Demon Tweeks, but excellent piece of kit that I cannot fault. Obviously it is not Mini specific and you need to make up mounts to suit, but it's no fun if it's easy....

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/Pro...T&pcode=KLF7B/S

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Is that not the wrong way round. You want to draw cold are in. not draw the hot engine air through the rad.

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On 3rd Jun, 2009 Si P said:
Is that not the wrong way round. You want to draw cold are in. not draw the hot engine air through the rad.

Si


It took me a few times to get my head round it before ordering the kit! Although the fan is mounted to the the inner wing, in theory it is no different to it being mounted directly to the radiator (just a bigger gap). The path for the air is in the grill and exiting through the inner wing and wheel arch. Therefore, the fan is sucking the air through the radiator and it exits out through the wheel arch. It moves a fair volume of air, you can feel the pull on your hand on the radiator matrix.

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i think the air volume is also helped as you have the early type wing rad shroud....wonder if it will be as efficient on a later shell like mine.

i did have an electric fan probably not as good as that one only cost 30 off ebay but that worked pants i really cant remember which way it worked but it went the same was as the normal fan just on the other side. but saying that maybe it lacked airflow from the grill side with the original cowling sheilding it but pics would be great think i will copy and have ago when i see the pics :)

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Low air pressure while driving under wheel arch, while high pressure in the engine bay from airflow through the grille,. Durr.


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But surely a fan is only used when a car is stationary. No air flow through the grill.

Hence the reason the fan is on the inside face of the rad. to draw cold air through it.

Si



On 3rd Jun, 2009 hario said:
Low air pressure while driving under wheel arch, while high pressure in the engine bay from airflow through the grille,. Durr.

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