OT- Vauxhall XE - induction/ignition options
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I might be messing with one of these soon for a bit of something different.

Now i really fancy putting it on webers, i had a mini with one on and the noise is adictive.

The engine comes with no induction or ignition stuff anyway so the choice is mine.

I've thought basically use twin 45's for the fueling, then a megajolt lite jr for the ignition so i get some benefits.

Looking on autosport labs, the kits are $80 which just seems crazy! Although i would prefer to have the coil drivers on board rather edis but hey, its not so bad.

Anyone else offer any advice? i'm new to this vauxhall game, well relatively!

Balls, missed the main point,

would this run better TPS or MAP? I'm guessing there isnt much to choose really in all fairness?

I have a set of bike carbs if your interested, 40mm butterflys.

You'd run it on TPS I reckon.

that's what i was thinking tom.

I am tempted with the bike carbs, but really want a bolt on solution and have always liked the old webers. Plus the lad i know is a distributor and knows them inside out which helps come tuning time.

My old man runs an XE in a grass car, on twin webers, it has some cams and other fancy bits and makes 240bhp. Say what you like about Vauxhall cars and in particular their "interesting" handling, but they damn sure know how to make a good engine.

i put up a pic somewhere of my x16xel engine pulley converted to mjlt, ian ,if thats any use.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

would be very useful i think.

thing about the old vauxhall engines is they arent half cheap for what they are.

just looking at getting a few bits together if i see them so i can crack on when i get home.

danmn straight,

the red top is indesructable in my experience, and i can break most stuff...

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

can megajolt work woith a 60-2 wheel? as (IIRC) the xe has one in the sump, and a sensor on the side of the block.

very neat

that a pre-bought trigger wheel?

NOPE I MADE IT FROM A PIECE OF RIDICULOUSLY HARD 6MM PLATE .oh sorry caps lol.
theres a thread on here somewhere ian.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

i thought vaux was 60-2 as its what i have on the mini

cant beat a vauxhall they are bomb proof!

im in the process of putting one in my mini and im running 45 webers with msd 6al and a cavalier bosch dizzy

mate of mine has got one in his mini on an allspeed subframe, originally was running on webbers and dizzy, now its on jenvy t.b's and some kind of mappable ignition system of which i cant remember! but he has said that the jenvys are worth every penny compared to the webbers, and they do sound nice.
he has killed the current engine to the extent it uses about as much oil as petrol, a new engine is being built up with a slight overbore, forged omegas, hot cams and a worked head, as if a std one wasnt quick enough in a mni

i'm wondering if it was the ignition though or the jenveys made the most difference.

thing is i can probably do the webers + megajolt for about £700 all new gear.

Jenveys + full mapable ignition £2k..

Hi Iain,
I have a mini that I was/am converting to use the X16XE engine and am almost sure I am throwing in the towel due to work commitments. I have 4 x 45mm SF Jenvey's with fittings (fuel rail, air filter, horns etc) I got the gear from SBD (they call it 1.6l taper throttle kit) and an Emerald K3 ECU with loom. I think all you would need to do is get the 2.0XE manifold from Jenvey. I will have decided by the weekend if I will be finishing the project or selling I was thinking of selling as a total package but if it is going would you be interested in a deal on these bits? Its all brand new, the TB's etc are still in boxes and the ECU has only been used in my gargage when I converted the A series to EFI and has the latest K3 software. The loom is in good condition and I have added some for the Innovate LC-1 that I also have

PM me if interested, as I said it will be Saturday before I pull the trigger either way after a friend takes a look at the project. He is a mechanic I might hire to do more of the heavy lifting while I am busy with work.

Cheers

Check out the (slow) progress at.......
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/dn89mini

a good set of 45 webers with a cav dizzy will be good for 180bhp! and like you say ots alot cheaper than tb set up

just go 45s to get started then save your pennys for a better set up later

to be honest, sorting out a megajolt is pennies really and will be better than the dizzy.

its just the carbs/tbi debate.

carbs are certainly much easier to plumb in with pumps etc. i think i could do it with all new carbs etc for half the price of the Tbi's.

hmm, decisions! have to go see the local vaux specialist plus weber/engine man and see what they suggest.

But at the minute, i'm megajolt and a pair of 45's.

If you can find motorcycle TBs that have a similar intake port spacing then you might be able to have a cheaper injection setup than with new carbs. There are quite a few cheap ECUs to chose from (even if I'm partial to MegaSquirt with sequential injection).

Jean

http://www.jbperf.com/

http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/showthre...?t=5623&page=13

This thread might give you some ideas, i'm running jenveys and MBE which is very good but you couldn't call it cheap

Whats this going in?

Please say the midget

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