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Right i have just stripped down my 1752 to inspect the damage and its very clear that the seals on the hot side were completed shafted. The disk/oil thrower thing was saturated in oil. This explained why oil was in the manifold too but not in my head ports. I am guessing that the oil was being thrown up the inlet and wetting the manifold.

Could you chaps just confirm my suspicions, upon removal of the main shaft i noticed a small groove on which an oil seal should go?"see first pic"

Also there are some major grooved in the shaft its self, im guessing this if fucked too.
"see second pic"

Anyone got a spare shaft i can pinch?





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Edited by MikeRace on 31st Jul, 2009.

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I know apbellamy has one! Does anyone know of a blown up diagram of a gt1752.

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its just the ring that does the sealing mike ..its important that its a nice tight but free sliding fit in the groove .. if the groove is worn wider than the ring by much then it wont seal .

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Right, ill go and have a gander

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Right i have just reassemble the just the central part of the turbo and blown down the oil feed and air is pissing out of the hot side. Robert are you sure there is just a clip that goes in to seal it?

EDIT: apparently so, just looked at your pics robert, ill rebuild it once my kit come and see whats what!

Edited by MikeRace on 28th Jul, 2009.

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What rebuild kit did you go for Mike? I'm sure Matty had a problem with missing parts form one supplier.

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It wa one of the little collar parts, he machined something down, kit has arrived today so ill see if its ok.

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Yeah the kit I got seemed to be a mix and match, got there in the end though!

I found the groove in the shaft had a step worn into mine which made finding a seal the right size hard to find. *oh well*

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Chaps i have aquired a newe shaft which isnt baldy damage like the other, however when trying to fit the oil seal spring it appears the slot has something in it.

Heres a pic

and the second pic is my original



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Thats looks like a step has been worn into the shaft...same happend to mine.

What is the fit like? I should imagine quite sloppy! Lol

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No very tight, as if the collar thing has metled and merged with the shaft?

If that makes any sense.

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Right mine looks fook all like this one of roberts



Looks like on the hunt for a shaft again.

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Mike, I've got two GT17's with loads of play. I'll pull these apart tonight and see if either of the shafts are any good.

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Could you not put the shaft in a lathe and take some material out of the slot until you can get a better shaft??

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As a last resort really.


On 31st Jul, 2009 apbellamy said:
Could you not put the shaft in a lathe and take some material out of the slot until you can get a better shaft??

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Cheers matey. Appreciate it.


On 31st Jul, 2009 theoneeyedlizard said:
Mike, I've got two GT17's with loads of play. I'll pull these apart tonight and see if either of the shafts are any good.

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stuffed if i can make it all out from the pics mike ,...can you get it any clearer ?

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Giz a sec and ill upload some decent pics.

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Right some better slightly blurred pics but it s the best i can do

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Click the pic and youll get a huge one.

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mike ,whats happened is the ring has spun ,worn the sides of the slot ,and caried on doing this ,until its made a wide flared groove ,and the deformed metal has blended the bottom of the slot so it looks really thin .ulp !

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the GT15's at my old work were same construction, i used to re-man then and ALOT had wear like yours, exhaust housing full of oil too.
piston clips worn down the groove

bearing surfact doesnt look particualy healthy either

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