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oli79

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From Sheffield now live in York tha noz

Hi-Had a day off today and took my car up to bogg brothers to get it set up, got a very nice 70 year old guy doing it who was great, he did a few initial gentle runs and after some profiling of the std needle got the fuelling looking something like he also looked over the maps and we decided on a 22 degree map which John very kindly sent me a while back. Strapped it down and went for some runs on boost, bit more needle work,6-6.5 k rev limit and.....

Well for starters it seems my lowest boost (tiny amount of preload) is more like 10 psi not the 7ish I had intially thought I had so it looks like my actuator is a 10psi unit. As for power to be honest your guess is as fucking good as mine-look dont go jumping up and down on me for the sake of it-I can only tell you what I saw on the dials. First runs at 10 psi I saw it going up and around the 180-200 bhp mark but there was some wheel spin which was interfering, we tried with a bit more like 13/14 psi one guy in the car and one stood on each sill and it went off the end if the gauge at 240 bhp and was still wheelspinning, couldnt take things any further so after a test on the road we called it a day at that.

So make of that what you will.The chap did say there dyno is not a million miles off like some his words not mine-he also said it was the best mini engine they had ever seen on there and that the guy that built it(steve benross by the way) was either a genius or a lunatic or a combination of both, he was deeply impressed with the motor -aughing his head off on the rr-but said nothing about the rest of the car so that says a lot about me! Anyhow it drives much much better off boost and the afr is a nice 12-12.5 at full chat, may look at another rr session in the future to get a perspective. Even so-another massive thanks to Steve F for a great engine.

cheers

oli

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


John

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Glad that map works for you. It's pretty much the same as the one our van runs. GT17 Oli?

Either way good numbers!!!

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Rick.SPI

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Whether it's right or not sounds like a stonking engine. :) Avon and mitp this year then?

Edited by Rick.SPI on 21st Feb, 2011.

On 17th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
I popped my first one out the other day...


oli79

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Yep great John-thanks again for the maps-it is a gt17, its great-seems to start boosting from around 2-2500 rpm


On 21st Feb, 2011 John said:
Glad that map works for you. It's pretty much the same as the one our van runs. GT17 Oli?

Either way good numbers!!!

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


Rick.SPI

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What spec is it? :)

On 17th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
I popped my first one out the other day...


oli79

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Hi Rick-oo not sure, may go to minis vs beetles up here in april for a gentle first outing! bit of a shit event sometimes though
oli

On 21st Feb, 2011 Rick.SPI said:
Whether it's right or not sounds like a stonking engine. :) Avon and mitp this year then?

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


Rick.SPI

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That's one of the ones I really wanna go but all depends.

On 17th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
I popped my first one out the other day...


BENROSS

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so there you have it chaps *happy* *Clapping* *Yes*

at such LOW Boost as well whats it going to make say at 18 or 20 psi my estimate is well........... the 280 mark....... i will make one with you oli for the easter bash beatle bashing






Rick.SPI

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What's the spec steve or is it a secret one. Very impressive.

On 17th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
I popped my first one out the other day...


oli79

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err-1293, accralite pistons, std but hardened crank(not sure on number) std rods, avobar ph2 cam, benross special head (he does good head-allegedly),ultralight flywheel,ap plate and grey diaphram,sc box and roller drops, 1.3 roller rockers, megajolt, gt17 and fiesta turbo pace intercooler-not certain on cr-Steve will be able to fill in the blanks/correct

On 21st Feb, 2011 Rick.SPI said:
What spec is it? :)


Bogg brother-I speak as I find they were great with me.

Cheers

Oli

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


BENROSS

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Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem

its only a 1293 cc my head 5 porter as well, cam ? and a gt17 turbo
1.3 rockers the trick is in the head

benny your engines waiting for you *Yes* the same engine as olie

Edited by BENROSS on 21st Feb, 2011.






oli79

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Oh and you ya sod-lost 6000 miles off my tyres today, mostly spread over bb rollers! lol


On 21st Feb, 2011 BENROSS said:
its only a 1293 cc my head 5 porter as well, cam ? and a gt17 turbo
1.3 rockers the trick is in the head

benny your engines waiting for you *Yes* the same engine as olie

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


Rick.SPI

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wow. ive already payed for my head, shame because these are obviously the bees knees...

have fun.

On 17th Feb, 2011 apbellamy said:
I popped my first one out the other day...


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On 21st Feb, 2011 BENROSS said:
its only a 1293 cc my head 5 porter as well, cam ? and a gt17 turbo
1.3 rockers the trick is in the head

benny your engines waiting for you *Yes* the same engine as olie


That's some serious power, I have a head from steve; awesome, a fantastic transformation, and I can only assume his engine builds are the same. A top quality bloke and a top quality service, would recommend him to anyone

I cannot wait for my benross engine, steve, next time we have decent weather ill give you a ring and pop up, desperate for a go in the benross machine *happy*

Audi s4 b5 - 470bhp & 486ft lbs

On 15th Mar, 2012 wil_h said:

Yes, Carl says he gets requests for rimming all the time

On 30th Apr, 2012 Brett said:
yeah stick the bit in and give it a wobble *wink*


Rob Gavin

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excellent results then - you must be very happy


Miniwilliams

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Yes well done fella top work, Holly Hell, mine on 14 psi is about 140 to 150 bhp lol

Edited by Miniwilliams on 21st Feb, 2011.

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
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theoneeyedlizard

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Was this tested on the same rollers as the 143 bhp eBay engine?

No disrespect but those numbers are inflated to say the least. Lol

In the 13's at last!.. Just


Johnny

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could you send me the map your using? i have very similar spec except i have a t2 not gt17 thats all :)


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That's impressive numbers.

Top work guys.

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george91

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that sounds quick, well done benross. would like to see an accurate print off of what it really kicks out.


oli79

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Thanks everyone for the comments-as I have said above make of it what you will,thats what I saw and I did ask the operator several times if that was correct,I cannot comment on the accuracy of anything as I have nothing else to benchmark it to, I am not one to make stuff up if that is what is being suggested-never entertained that sort of person and never will,Steve himself said there are some rolling roads that would get 30 bhp from a pram!, I would say that another rr session somewhere else may throw something different up and may be an option for the future.

Cheers

Oli

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


oli79

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MS Paint flat cap champion & Morris Ital Lover

From Sheffield now live in York tha noz

Hi Matt-Have admired your car for a couple of years, part of why I now have one! Just wondering where yours is rolling roaded?

cheers

oli


On 21st Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
Yes well done fella top work, Holly Hell, mine on 14 psi is about 140 to 150 bhp lol

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


oli79

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MS Paint flat cap champion & Morris Ital Lover

From Sheffield now live in York tha noz

pm'ed


On 21st Feb, 2011 Johnny said:
could you send me the map your using? i have very similar spec except i have a t2 not gt17 thats all :)

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

The Morris Ital assassin!


John

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save's me digging it out again oli *wink*

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Miniwilliams

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Hi Oli, well glad to have inspired you :) I get mine done in Essex, i feel thats a little far for you! Eitehr way if it goes like stink that's the main *wink*

Best 1/4 mile 13.2 seconds @116 mph
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on a carb?
First 5 port miniturbo to make over 200 bhp on Injection?

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