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![]() 5417 Posts Member #: 6181 Double hard bastard brookwood woking |
19th Jun, 2011 at 09:57:18pm
I have just seen this on TMF £650 is not bad.
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On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
19th Jun, 2011 at 10:28:38pm
I remember those On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 3249 Posts Member #: 1194 Post Whore Shropshire. |
19th Jun, 2011 at 10:32:31pm
yeah didn't he have trouble getting them to fit his set up? |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
19th Jun, 2011 at 10:50:07pm
Because of a minus shell, tbh i dont see why this would effect fitment as they are based on the std item?? So surely he will have trouble what ever he uses. If only i had 650 they are porn Drives
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203 Posts Member #: 1734 Senior Member Lancaster |
19th Jun, 2011 at 11:40:50pm
I can't understand why the inner arches on a Minus can't be modified. GRP is a piece of piss to work with. Slapping on a bit more GRP/repositioning in a clever manner will probably increase structural integrity. Edited by manifold on 19th Jun, 2011. |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
20th Jun, 2011 at 08:36:41pm
Can someone explain why you can't fit them without tubing the arches? Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
20th Jun, 2011 at 08:49:31pm
i think the real problem was that the car these were going on, was a minus. now im not sure since i have never seen one in person, but the minus is fibreglass and about half inch smaller all round? On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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4018 Posts Member #: 1757 Back to Fucking Tool status Swindon |
20th Jun, 2011 at 09:02:08pm
The minus ahells i have seen were all pre tubbed arches, tbh prob running wide wheels and too low? I have seen quite a few of minuses with 13x7s they seem to be okay? Drives
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1391 Posts Member #: 1686 Post Whore Oxford |
20th Jun, 2011 at 10:37:42pm
i think your less likly to have issues with these then other arms, i mean.
On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one |
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1083 Posts Member #: 8932 Post Whore |
21st Jun, 2011 at 12:21:47pm
The trouble is that he has the ti rear beam too, so my guess is that width between the upper shock mounts is different. Which is why it doesn't fit, in my opinion it would much more sense to use standard dimension arms like these and a custom width beam.
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
21st Jun, 2011 at 12:25:56pm
I think that it is more due to the fact that he would need to run coil-overs and the rear upper shock mounting on the fibreglass shell will not take the load. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
21st Jun, 2011 at 12:32:13pm
On 21st Jun, 2011 Paul S said:
I think that it is more due to the fact that he would need to run coil-overs and the rear upper shock mounting on the fibreglass shell will not take the load. My Sabre Sprint runs rear coilovers, but there is actually quite a lot of steel to strenghten the mounting points. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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26 Posts Member #: 9080 Member Stourbridge West-Midlands |
21st Jun, 2011 at 01:00:18pm
They are my arms. Minus' do take all standard running gear no problem and the beam and arms were supposed to be direct replacements! Fibreglass is relatively easy to work with (if done properly) but as i'd said i wouldn't want to tub my turrets because the shell would loose some of its structural integrity (which is a fact) which is very unfortunate for me as it means i cannot use the arms. I have built and rebuild several minus' in the past and even a sprint shell and i do know the ins and out of the shell and what is possible with it. I have picked my brain for many hours about the problem but there is no solution i would be happy with from both a safety factor and a longevity factor (which is a bit of a kick in the balls for the price i paid for them). I don't want to come off rude or sound like a know it all but these arms will not fit in an unmodified mini and ergo will not fit in a minus also. So unfortunately i have to sell them. I hope this has put a few peoples minds to rest.
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1083 Posts Member #: 8932 Post Whore |
21st Jun, 2011 at 01:30:21pm
Sorry but if you can fit normal shocks the surely you can fit offset coilovers designed for non turreted minis? |
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1391 Posts Member #: 1686 Post Whore Oxford |
21st Jun, 2011 at 02:06:09pm
I dont think many of us understand why you would need to tub your rear arches. I think your goin to have to explain this one too us.
On 21st Jun, 2011 blue blood said:
They are my arms. Minus' do take all standard running gear no problem and the beam and arms were supposed to be direct replacements! Fibreglass is relatively easy to work with (if done properly) but as i'd said i wouldn't want to tub my turrets because the shell would loose some of its structural integrity (which is a fact) which is very unfortunate for me as it means i cannot use the arms. I have built and rebuild several minus' in the past and even a sprint shell and i do know the ins and out of the shell and what is possible with it. I have picked my brain for many hours about the problem but there is no solution i would be happy with from both a safety factor and a longevity factor (which is a bit of a kick in the balls for the price i paid for them). I don't want to come off rude or sound like a know it all but these arms will not fit in an unmodified mini and ergo will not fit in a minus also. So unfortunately i have to sell them. I hope this has put a few peoples minds to rest. Kind Regards Blue :) On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one |
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26 Posts Member #: 9080 Member Stourbridge West-Midlands |
21st Jun, 2011 at 02:50:26pm
i have off set shocks. The reason why i can't fit them is because where the shocks connect to the arm its too thick. In the sense that there is more material on the arm than a standard arm which forces the coilover to be closer in. If you look at the pictures on TMF and have a look from the top side picture just have a look at the distance of material between the hub mounting stub to where the bolt is to attach the coilovers. Its alot bigger than a standard arms one. Hard to explain but there it is :)
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1391 Posts Member #: 1686 Post Whore Oxford |
21st Jun, 2011 at 04:23:19pm
I cant see why you cant remold the area. On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
21st Jun, 2011 at 06:28:32pm
On 21st Jun, 2011 Sam said:
I cant see why you cant remold the area. Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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265 Posts Member #: 368 Senior Member Roseville, CA (USA) |
21st Jun, 2011 at 07:07:43pm
Those things are dead sexy, and must weight next to nothing! Stop trying to sway blue blood, and someone snap these up! Hahaha! **************************************
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
21st Jun, 2011 at 07:20:45pm
If it were me, I'd just chop a section off the shock mounting point to bring the shock back into the correct position. Then re-machine the bung in the end and have it welded back on. I bit of a ball ache, but only an afternoons work, and would be worth it in the long run! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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26 Posts Member #: 9080 Member Stourbridge West-Midlands |
21st Jun, 2011 at 08:59:32pm
yeah you could remould turrets but it won't be as strong and its having all the rears weight on it so i can't put my pride and joy at risk along with my safety as i will be driving it as a daily car once finished. Anyway for £650 they are a bargain for anyone |
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180 Posts Member #: 373 Advanced Member Leeds |
21st Jun, 2011 at 10:17:01pm
On 21st Jun, 2011 blue blood said:
yeah you could remould turrets but it won't be as strong and its having all the rears weight on it so i can't put my pride and joy at risk along with my safety as i will be driving it as a daily car once finished. Anyway for £650 they are a bargain for anyone why do you keep bleeting on about if you changed the turrets it wont be as strong.......if you did it properly they would be! You were moaning over on 16v as well. I can't get my head round you wanting to take such a hit on the price instead of altering the turret points. Paul "I'll get there in the end" |
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
21st Jun, 2011 at 10:26:01pm
I can't imagine those turrets are solid, they would be more than likely machined hollow, or simply a tube with a welded bung in the end.
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
21st Jun, 2011 at 11:06:43pm
On 21st Jun, 2011 blue blood said:
i have off set shocks. The reason why i can't fit them is because where the shocks connect to the arm its too thick. In the sense that there is more material on the arm than a standard arm which forces the coilover to be closer in. If you look at the pictures on TMF and have a look from the top side picture just have a look at the distance of material between the hub mounting stub to where the bolt is to attach the coilovers. Its alot bigger than a standard arms one. Hard to explain but there it is :) Regards Blue Thanks, that makes sense now, when I think of tubing arches I always think of cutting back the outer arches to allow the car to run lower and could not get round why you'd need to do that for a pair of suspension arms. Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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![]() 6752 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
22nd Jun, 2011 at 07:30:11am
cant the arm be moved outwards at the beam end by the amount its too thick at the shock mount ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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