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Paulolorencio

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Hi all

So went to start my car today and it won't turn over!The car has been sitting for the last 4 months and the only thing I have done to it is change the clutch in this time(verto). The engine was freshly rebuilt 10 months ago so I'd hate to think the pistons had seized.

I've had the car in 4th and have been rocking it but not amount of force will turn the engine over. When the clutch is depressed the car moves no problem.

Could it be the clutch?


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sounds like clutch fault to me. I take it it turnd over fine before cluch change

Edited by wng691s clubby on 7th Apr, 2012.

Done now needs redoing lol


Paulolorencio

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Yeah turned over fine before but has been sitting for months. What could be wrong with it to stop the engine turning over?


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What happened to need the clutch changing after only 10 months?

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im guessing but maybe the fly wheel could be jamming id whip the cover off and have a quick look im sure some of the other more inteligent guys will be able to advise better

Done now needs redoing lol


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It originally had a new clutch plate but the rest was unknown and it slipped when changing from 3rd to 4th at high revs. So after it had been run in I decided to change it for something more up to the job.


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Flat battery?

Will it push in 4th?

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Paulolorencio

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Nope , it won't push in 4th !


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will it start with the clutch pressed in?

Done now needs redoing lol


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sounds like the bolts that hold the slave cyl are contacting the ring gear

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Haven't tried starting it with the clutch pedal depressed yet.

That's an interesting thought Joe. Are they actually long enough to touch the flywheel though?


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they can be if you use preverto bolt on a verto...

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Ah can't be that then, only ever been a verto setup.


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could try putting a ring spanner on the crank pulley bolt and try and turn her over like that thats if you can get to it

Done now needs redoing lol


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I've done what joe suggests :/

Worth a check

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I don't have any pre verto clutch stuff , but I will check the bolt length anyway.

Does no one think the pistons could have seized in the bore ?


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It sounds like a clutch problem and you say it turns over in 4th when the clutch is depressed.

Is the clutch you fitted a completely different setup from the one you took off or just the friction plate? Could it be the friction plate the wrong way round?

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Did it run at all after the clutch change, roadtest or anything.? Doesn't sound clutch as disengages and at worst would be just stuck on and still rock in gear. Poss flywheel jammed as said above.? Bar on the crank pulley to try and see just how tight.

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if its only 10months since a rebuild it shouldnt of siezed up unless it has been left open and out in the elements

Done now needs redoing lol


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Did you have the starter motor out when changing the clutch ?

If so, I'm with Joe.

The starter and clutch slave mounting plate bolts are the same thread but the starter ones are slightly longer. Easy mistake if they are out at the same time.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???


Paulolorencio

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Matty: I haven't tried turning it over with the clutch depressed. In 4th the car rolls when the clutch is depressed. Same setup just new parts. But any things possible lol

No road test or anything after the clutch change

Rod: yes I had the starter motor out at the same time! If the bolts are the same but 2x being slightly longer then this could be it!

I will check it later today and let you know.

Thanks for the help guys


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On 7th Apr, 2012 Joe C said:
sounds like the bolts that hold the slave cyl are contacting the ring gear

If there where bolts touching the flywheel/ring gear, it wouldn't turn over with the clutch pedal pressed as that would make no difference to the outside of the flywheel.

Edited by apbellamy on 8th Apr, 2012.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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This is my best guess too. If you've only changed the clutch this is the most likely thing it can be.

It's easy to check too so why not try it ?? Ive had it as a few people above have...


On 8th Apr, 2012 apbellamy said:
On 7th Apr, 2012 Joe C said:
sounds like the bolts that hold the slave cyl are contacting the ring gear

If there where bolts touching the flywheel/ring gear, it wouldn't turn over with the clutch pedal pressed as that would make no difference to the outside of the flywheel.

On 7th Nov, 2011 apbellamy said:
Shaft seems nice and snug


On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
no no no no, you need more boost! you can never ever come on here and say I have enough boost, that's just silly.


On 29th Mar, 2010 Star Mag said:
these give no problems with good head


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Al - it can't be those bolts as he can turn the flywheel with the clutch pressed. If there was something wedging the outside of the flywheel, it wouldn't turn over at all.

My money is on incorrectly assembled clutch/flywheel. possibly the friction plate back to front.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Andy, what he actually says is

On 8th Apr, 2012 Paulolorencio said:
Matty: I haven't tried turning it over with the clutch depressed.

In 4th the car rolls when the clutch is depressed.


That is symptoms of flywheel locked but with clutch depressed the driven plate can spin by itself (with car in 4th and pushed).

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

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