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Guys I have a problem *frown*

I was running b8es plugs for a bit and I blew a plug I dont know which one as my gdad sorted it for me,

I came back home and it blew another b8es plug in cylinder 3 so andy told me my plugs were too cold and to try the old bp6es from my old engine, so I put them in and it ran so much better.

Went to drive the car tonight and guess what, back on 3 cylinders, popped the leads and cylinder 3 again


It cant be a pure co incidence?

Im running megajolt with the bigger coilpack and halfords own fiesta leads and when I ran bpr7es plugs it ran like shit till the b8es plugs were put it and it ran much etfer so im guessing I have resistive leads

Can anyone advise me as to why it keeps killing plugs?

Should I try champion plugs? I read somewhere a guy kept having ngk plugs die and went to them?

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Craig

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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Maths would suggest a 25% chance of pure coincidence, so it's not exactly ruled out..


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Megajolt needs a resistor plug. and 8's are way too cold. 6's should be fine and 7's if you really really want to, but 8's are just a bit too much.

However, the fact that it is always the same cylinder, I would be checking cylinder compression pressures first, then leak down pressures

It could also be onset of detonation, so try pulling 4 degrees out of your map and see if things improve.

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Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
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Yep I agree with TD........


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And what exactly is blowing a plug ?

A pic would be very helpful.

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Ill see if my dad has a compression tester, the car isnt setup properly its running quite rich in the 10 - 13's afr at all times and sometimes it will lean out off the scale

Do I just take 4 off of all the numbers on the map?

Slark told me to get it run in and take it back to get it setup properly

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


Craigie-B

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Blown a plug - it just stops working

Doesnt look any different what so ever to the others just when I pull the ht lead off the engine makes nodiff

Edited by Craigie-B on 23rd Nov, 2012.

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


Craigie-B

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Triple post fail

Edited by Craigie-B on 23rd Nov, 2012.

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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I've been running non resistive 8's for 2 year with megajolt without fault for reference.

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yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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On 23rd Nov, 2012 Craigie-B said:
Ill see if my dad has a compression tester, the car isnt setup properly its running quite rich in the 10 - 13's afr at all times and sometimes it will lean out off the scale

Do I just take 4 off of all the numbers on the map?

Slark told me to get it run in and take it back to get it setup properly


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what value is lean out off scale? This could be a rich missfire. Below 10 to 9 afr could likely see rich missfire. All that extra fuel is maybe what is shorting the plugs.

I'm surprised at Slark suggesting you run in an engine that is so far from ideal settings. often, you'll never get to the dyno, and even when you do, the engine is fucked with either detonation or bore wash

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


Craigie-B

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Im using an aem afr guage it only goes between 10 and 18 some times itll just display 10 and others it goes --- after the 17's

It usually drives within the 12's an 13's

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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pics of the plugs?

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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There very black and nothings visually wring with them, not at home so will get a pic tomorrow morn

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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try ngkbpr6es... fine over 20psi boost,
i kept dropping plugs all over the shop and the afr go off the scale lean i havent dropped a plug since

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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also, try some denso's or champions in there,

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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Ill get some bpr6es tomorrow and see how it goes ill look at champions after that

Thanks or the help guys

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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what gaps are you running on the plugs?

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We had similar problems early on with the tt. It was all sorted when the fueling was sorted. Going too rich can kill plugs, no matter who makes them.

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On 23rd Nov, 2012 Craigie-B said:
There very black and nothings visually wring with them, not at home so will get a pic tomorrow morn


If they are very black, then there is absolutely something visually wrong....they're very black !

And as others have said, you are risking causing lots of damaged to your engine by running very rich. You should never be running richer than 10.0:1, even more so when your gauge doesnt read there. For all you know it could be 6:1, 7:1 etc
But even richer than 10:1 can and will cause bore and piston/ring problems. And if it's damaging plugs, it could be even richer than that. Plugs do not like being soaked in fuel.

Something is very badly wrong.

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Craig you puff, you've put unknown used plugs in and they have died. Hardly surprising. Stop being a tight arse student and put some new ones in! *wink*

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Craig i can meet you and get them with my trade card if you want

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Craigie-B

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I already got some :( was 2.20 each, thanks anyway wolfie would be good to meet up at some point anyway :)

Benross I will get the map after I have finished my soup :)

edit:

Forgot to mention I was driving the car around today. I kept my eye on the AFRS and it was between 11's and 14's at all times (obv varying) whilst driving. Theres a flat lean spot at around 1500rpm - 2000rpm but thats always been there.

Spark plug hasnt gone yet and I put about 20 miles on it before the heater tap exploded

Edited by Craigie-B on 24th Nov, 2012.

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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cheap chinese knock off plugs may be part of the issue,

IMO the ceramic on cheap plugs is more porus making them more prone to fouling, not so much of an issue on a good micture, but if your down at 11:1....

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



Craigie-B

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yeah, it doesnt run at 11.1 for long its mainly in 12 and 13

Heres the map

On 10th Mar, 2012 theoneeyedlizard said:

Hypothetically speaking, where would you stick your nozzle?


On 22nd Jun, 2012 apbellamy said:
my wife doesn't know what.head is never mind compression ratio.


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Even 12/13 during normal off boost driving is quite rich. You should be looking to see high 13's at least for normal driving.

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