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Dr. jinG

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I'm planning on using the recirulating method of plumbing my fuel lines. However, I'm concerned about the fuel getting hot. So, I was thinking that maybe I could use a small radiator to get the heat out. Something maybe off the bottom of a fridge? What do you lot think? What's being done out there?

I've heard cool cans, but I have no desire to maintain a water level in a cool can in addition to fuel, oil, etc. levels...

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Joe C

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ever heard of a peltier element?

It might be possible to use one for this.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Dr. jinG

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Thanks, mini13. I have not heard of that, but I'll do a search really quickly...

Are you running one? Or is it always cool enough in the UK that fuel temp is not so much a concern?

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peltier element..used in 12v cool boxes and computer cooling


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Dr. jinG

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Yup. Did a search. Looks like a good plan! Nothing to maintain. I'm liking this idea... I should be able to get some cooling towers from work to dissipate the heat from the hot side, too...

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I also thought of this when people were starting using the T-piece trick. It has been covered before, and Jukka could tell us all that this wasn't a problem. I guess it isn't then :)

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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no, I'm not running one, just found one at work once and found it fascinating! besides I'm still nomally aspirated at the moment.

from memory the elements are a little current hungry, (like 3A to get any decent cooling) It may be that this idea is impractical (ie The flow of fuel is just toomuch for the element to cool) if anyone in the uk does want to give it a go here's a supply of elements.

http://www.greenweld.co.uk/scripts/ss00000...x=18&ACTION.y=9

If I were to try this i'd make a sealed cool can with one of these elements on it with a heatsink and a small fan on the hot side.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



Joe C

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Carlos Fandango

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Vegard,
Did a search but can't find anything do you remember where?

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

https://joe1977.imgbb.com/



BigAl...

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Dr.jinG (Jon you can't hide from me!*happy*) you really should consider not using the T method I converted my tank by simply drilling a hole at the top near the filler and installed a AN bulkhead and epoxied the nut so it would never come loose. It took all of 15 mins to do it and now the fuel doesn't get any hotter than any other efi car in the world.

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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Nope just BigAl from Miami, FL USA


Dr. jinG

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Eek, I've been found out!

BigAl, this coming from a guy who recommends I cut into my bulkhead to fit my turbo! I want my twin tanks pristine, just like my bulkhead...

But just for debate, why should I avoid the T-method? *happy*

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BigAl...

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Jon I would avoid the t method simply for the heating issue, by returning it to the tank you'll have alot bigger volume to feed the pump with cooler fuel. cmon Jon one little hole inthe tank, noone will even see it!

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BTW Jon when you're ready I'll lend you the plasma cutter for that bulkhead:cool:

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Dr. jinG

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Sweet, a plasma cutter... That's the one tool I don't have in the garage (well, that and a mill and lathe!). Just to be able to use one, I'm almost tempted... *happy*

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grp A metos used an oil cooler (10 row)matrix to cool fuel , and heat shield on rear exhaust box will stop some heat soak into the boot/tank area


Dr. jinG

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Thanks, Stuart. Wow, a 10 row to cool fuel! I guess that if you ran out of gas, you could just drain that cooler and get another mile or two... *laughing*

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Alot of the old race cars used to do alot of things that were a little "out there", a 10row oil cooler to cool fuel is like using a bulldozer to remove an ant hill in the front lawn! Guys assuming you plumb the fuel return into the tank there will be NO heat issue with the fuel. remember just about every car sold today uses high pressure fuel systems and I have yet to see a fuel cooler!

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No need!

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Dr. jinG

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But if we don't go into the tank, then we need to cool the fuel... *wink*

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but what requires mroe effort? epoxying in a return at the top of the tank, or plumbing and securing (and providing airflow to) a cooler for your fuel, and keeping it all away from potential fire hazards like the exhaust.

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Dr. jinG

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Thanks for your opinion, evolotion, but as I've PORed the tanks, and they are original 's' tanks and not something I'd like to bung up, I am of the opinion that a little effort is worth it...

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On 24/07/2005 02:05:12 Dr. jinG said:

Thanks for your opinion, evolotion, but as I've PORed the tanks, and they are original 's' tanks and not something I'd like to bung up, I am of the opinion that a little effort is worth it...



Jon YOU"RE KILLEN ME!!!!!!

I'm gonna fly out to texas and drill the friggin holes myself

(probably when you're sleeping, so you don't even notice)


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On 24/07/2005 02:05:12 Dr. jinG said:

Thanks for your opinion, evolotion, but as I've PORed the tanks, and they are original 's' tanks and not something I'd like to bung up, I am of the opinion that a little effort is worth it...



Jon YOU"RE KILLEN ME!!!!!!

I'm gonna fly out to texas and drill the friggin holes myself

(probably when you're sleeping, so you don't even notice)


BigAl...


Dr. jinG

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Come on out, BigAl...

But you ain't touching my tanks OR my firewall! *happy*

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