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madmk1

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I am looking for a foam air filter the squidgy sort, I am not sure who makes them, but I am sure I have seen them on here.

Or if someone has one sat about they can let me play with *smiley*

Thanks for any help simon.

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ITG are fairly popular Simon, give them a google.


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Don't waste your money or your engine

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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ITG or Pipercross but to be honest you'd be better off with good old K&N

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i liked my pipercross verry noisy though

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

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madmk1

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I have a k&n but I am looking at something that's a little smaller really

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.


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I have a small k&n from a corsa. The foam filters are supposed to be terrible at filtering.

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madmk1

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Is it a hard one Gary ? As I want to manipulate it you see.

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.


Brett

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*hehe!* ill second that foam filters are crap


On 26th May, 2014 madmk1 said:
Is it a hard one Gary ? As I want to manipulate it you see.

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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madmk1

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Your not helping brett !

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.


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My mistake for thinking they were popular! Then again, I haven't purchased an air filter in over 2 years...


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Just because something is 'popular' doesn't mean that it's any good *happy*

Also, just because something is different from the norm doesn't mean it's any good either lol

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


wolfie29177

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I've heard good things about Green filters and they do various size cylinder filters. I've used Pipercross in the past and they might sound lairy but clog up quickly so feck up the air/fuel mix

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What shape/size etc ?

In reality, almost all of the aftermarket filters...filter like fuck all.

Ive had huge K&N's on my supercharged V8 for a good while, also had Green ones.

In that time Ive had lots of belt shredding incidents.....and it would shock you how much dirt has found it's way into the blower...and the intercooler.

They really do not filter very well.

IMO if you are overly concerned about filtration, stick with paper.

Foam is supposed to be worse than the cotton types, but then there are many styles and makeups of foam filters as well as different thickness. So it isnt easy to say which is better.
The only one thing is for sure, get as much surface area on the filter as possible, that way it stands more chance of filtering.

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My car has never been run without a filter. Belt shredding incidents are quite messy though

This was the inlet of my intercooler in November when I took things apart for changes



Ignore the silver bits, that's from cutting it open. But inside the tubes were also coated with the black crap
In short lots of dirt got through. The outlet side of the IC was almost clean, so most of the dirt got caught in the intercooler. It took some cleaning.

Edited by stevieturbo on 26th May, 2014.

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On 26th May, 2014 madmk1 said:
Your not helping brett !


i had pictures of one that peeled away from the inside and eventually lost its shape and was introduced at about the speed of sound to a compressor wheel doing 1/4million rpm *happy* and that was an hks mushroom ( not my turbo) but the same type that i run on the skyline lol

afew years back a couple off supra guys bought every filter on the market to settle the age old argument that goes on amongst the mkivsupra lot
i have lost the link and have tryed to find it to with limited success (http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/ ) but essentially the worst for filtration was the foam ones with the HKS one being amongst the worst
i would avoid a foam filter as much as possible,
that said i have to 2 layer foam on the skyline :)

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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The k&ns need to be oiled correctly and once there's a little bit of crap on it they work very well. If the car is used infrequently and you don't mind rebuilding it a bit more than one with a good filter on then just bung a pipercross on. They're not too bad, Think endaf runs one on his kad 16v spaceframe.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


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K&N needs to be specifically selected for the application. Naturaly aspirated filters are different from forced induction filters. If you use a naturally aspirated filter on forced induction it will let shit through. Its all to do with the way the k&n filters work.

It's the same for their 357i induction kits, its a denser filter.

Edited by Sprocket on 27th May, 2014.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Is this the one? http://www.supracentral.com/foundation/con...ion-kit-review/


On 26th May, 2014 Brett said:


afew years back a couple off supra guys bought every filter on the market to settle the age old argument that goes on amongst the mkivsupra lot
i have lost the link and have tryed to find it to with limited success (http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/ ) but essentially the worst for filtration was the foam ones with the HKS one being amongst the worst
i would avoid a foam filter as much as possible,
that said i have to 2 layer foam on the skyline :)


madmk1

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That hks one could maybe work for what I have in mind, I mean in shape

Edited by madmk1 on 27th May, 2014.

I have started posting on Instagram also my name on there is turbomk1golf

Nothing is impossible it just costs more and takes longer.

On 1st Nov, 2007 Ben H said:
There is no such thing as 'insignificant weight saving', it all adds up.


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On 27th May, 2014 metroturbo said:
Is this the one? http://www.supracentral.com/foundation/con...ion-kit-review/


that could be the one, or one of them i thought there was more filters than that ( inc the stock one)

Yes i moved to the darkside *happy*

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On 26th May, 2014 Sprocket said:
Just because something is 'popular' doesn't mean that it's any good *happy*

Also, just because something is different from the norm doesn't mean it's any good either lol


Very true on both counts! I remember seeing a fair few build threads from a couple of years ago with the ITG moulded dome filters on and assumed that was the filter of choice. Saying that though, I have yet to research filters for my own build so this thread should help me no end!


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Double post

Edited by Carlzilla on 28th May, 2014.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


Carlzilla

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That is a handy article, not just on how well they performed but also on how well they filtered. Wouldn't catch me putting a HKS filter on anything any time soon!

http://www.supracentral.com/foundation/con...ion-kit-review/

Edited by Carlzilla on 28th May, 2014.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine)


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My car once stopped boosting. Pulled the bonnet to find that the foam air filter had disappeared.

Found it in the compressor :( It had passed through half a metre of elephants trunk.

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