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![]() 644 Posts Member #: 9371 Post Whore East Yorkshire |
5th Jun, 2014 at 08:25:57pm
Hey guys. My uber long project will hopefully be getting spark later in the year. Was wondering how to attach the mechanical components of 3d ignition.
BHP sells engines, but Torque wins races! |
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1713 Posts Member #: 8480 MS Paint flat cap champion & Morris Ital Lover From Sheffield now live in York tha noz |
5th Jun, 2014 at 09:54:54pm
On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today. On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet ? The Morris Ital assassin! |
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![]() 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
5th Jun, 2014 at 09:55:27pm
Hahahahahaahaha!! On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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![]() 10022 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
5th Jun, 2014 at 09:56:48pm
Bahahahaahh! If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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![]() 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
5th Jun, 2014 at 11:04:21pm
Bahahahahaha Yes i moved to the darkside |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
5th Jun, 2014 at 11:43:57pm
Genius!!
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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17 Posts Member #: 9903 Member Northern California |
6th Jun, 2014 at 03:10:31am
I guess if you have to explain the joke to me it's not going to work anyway! |
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![]() 644 Posts Member #: 9371 Post Whore East Yorkshire |
6th Jun, 2014 at 05:48:26am
Trust you olly. Ha ha
BHP sells engines, but Torque wins races! |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
6th Jun, 2014 at 10:17:00am
On 6th Jun, 2014 Frog.aye said:
I guess if you have to explain the joke to me it's not going to work anyway! A UK sitcom By way of a simple explanation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_%28On...s_and_Horses%29 A very short clip fom probably his best performance (BBC have had all the full versions removed from YouTube for breach of copyright). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUl6PooveJE&feature=kp And that's why a lot of Minis over here are "Trigger's Broom"... But back to the original question, what kind of wheel are you trying fit, a purposed made one for the A-series of just a generic one ? Mine's a generic one attached to the back of the pulley and with a home made bracket welded behind the pulley to the timing chain case. Most have the bracket at the front of the engine. Doesn't matter so long as you get the 90 degree relationship between the wheel and sensor at TDC correct. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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17 Posts Member #: 9903 Member Northern California |
6th Jun, 2014 at 10:18:32pm
Here are pictures of what I have done. The vehicle is a Frogeye, so the engine is oriented correctly with respect to the chassis. |
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283 Posts Member #: 8215 Senior Member Rayleigh |
6th Jun, 2014 at 11:41:18pm
Here's mine bolts to the inside of the crank pulley
Dave the Cake |
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
7th Jun, 2014 at 08:18:15am
Do you have a trigger wheel already? are you on a budget?
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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![]() 644 Posts Member #: 9371 Post Whore East Yorkshire |
7th Jun, 2014 at 11:22:57am
Don't have one yet, thought I'd do my research first
BHP sells engines, but Torque wins races! |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
7th Jun, 2014 at 02:02:25pm
Mine,
Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Jun, 2014 at 05:15:04pm
I'm now using the flywheel On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
7th Jun, 2014 at 07:36:16pm
On 7th Jun, 2014 Sprocket said:
I'm now using the flywheel Colin, Given that option I would agree entirely. But that needs an SPI or MPI flywheel and an ECU that can read their rather weird pattern. MS can and I assume what you are using can but that pattern is rather beyond what MJ (or probably any other ignition only ECU) can understand ??? Technically the flywheel is a far better place to read accurate timing signals compared to a damped pully the other end but I would guess it's out of the question for 90% of people on this forum. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
7th Jun, 2014 at 07:39:35pm
or get a plain verto back and mill some blind holes in it.
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Jun, 2014 at 07:56:38pm
Piece of piss to modify an SPi flywheel for megajolt, Like I did for one of the girls at our club Edited by Sprocket on 7th Jun, 2014. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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17 Posts Member #: 9903 Member Northern California |
7th Jun, 2014 at 11:55:18pm
Paul S. said:
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1267 Posts Member #: 831 Post Whore Montreal, Canada |
8th Jun, 2014 at 01:36:22am
On 7th Jun, 2014 Frog.aye said:
...PROVIDED that you mount to the pulley NOT the damped portion of the damper... That's the issue. Most people (here at least) use the damped portion because it's easier. And many claim that is doesn't matter. By the way, that was Rod S not Paul S. Jean |
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17 Posts Member #: 9903 Member Northern California |
8th Jun, 2014 at 01:38:31am
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS. Well then all due respect to Rod. |
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1767 Posts Member #: 9165 Previously josh4444 Australia, brisbane |
8th Jun, 2014 at 04:28:18am
id say farther out from the center line is better i say this as the distance between teeh is grater for the same angle if you follow me?
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5988 Posts Member #: 2024 Formally Retired Rural Suffolk |
8th Jun, 2014 at 06:59:36am
On 7th Jun, 2014 Frog.aye said:
Paul S. said: Technically the flywheel is a far better place to read accurate timing signals compared to a damped pully the other end but I would guess it's out of the question for 90% of people on this forum. With all due respect to Paul, I fail to see why the front of the crankshaft (#1 cyl) would be less desirable for the trigger wheel than the flywheel: PROVIDED that you mount to the pulley NOT the damped portion of the damper. The front has one major advantage in that it is more accessible than the flywheel. If you mount the trigger wheel on the damped portion then all best are off. Hal Hmm, I may not have worded it very well but when I said "compared to a damped pulley" I meant that the pulley part is the damped part so not ideal. If you look at my photo higher up the thread you will see I took the easy option, ie it is on the damped part not the fixed part. I couldn't see any simple way of attaching a generic toothed wheel to the fixed part of a standard pulley. Although no-one has posted a photo yet, a lot of folks have had the pattern milled into the thick front section of the pulley, again, the damped section. Taking an SPI/MPI flywheel assembly and modifying the reluctor ring to a 36/1 pattern as Colin suggests sounds a neat idea but that means having a late flywheel (or whichever bit of the verto assembly the ring is fitted to) in the first place and whichever bit of an SPI/MPI engine the sensor is mounted in, I guess the transfer case but I've never actually seen one. EDIT - just found a picture (one of Colin's I think) and the mod does look quite easy (if you've got one of the rings and a flywheel with a groove to install it in)
Edited by Rod S on 8th Jun, 2014. Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ??? |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
8th Jun, 2014 at 09:10:00am
The flywheel end doesnt 'vibrate'anywhere near as much as the other end.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
8th Jun, 2014 at 09:28:08am
Seeing as I am getting some of the blame, I'll contribute :)
Edited by Paul S on 8th Jun, 2014. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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