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why would my turbo be leaking oil?



it was rebuilt by midland turbo i spoke to the boss there and he blamed my oil drain, so i fixed that with it being 19mm ID

refitted and now its still leaking oil in the same place :/

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It will be running down from above. The point where it is pooling is the lowest point. I would look at what ever is between the turbo and the silicon hose hose.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 8th Sep, 2014 apbellamy said:
It will be running down from above. The point where it is pooling is the lowest point. I would look at what ever is between the turbo and the silicon hose hose.


i looks like the its coming from the core and where it joins the exhaust housing to me.

i think my oil drain is to blame again, i dont think it flowing correctly,
time to give up on trying to get it flow back into the block via the fuel pump hole


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Is it leaking oil, or leaking oil and also smoking out the exhaust ?

Was that the crazy copper multibend oil drain ?

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On 8th Sep, 2014 stevieturbo said:
Is it leaking oil, or leaking oil and also smoking out the exhaust ?

Was that the crazy copper multibend oil drain ?


Hahahaha nah it's a different oil drain,
But I suspect probably just as bad :(

I didn't see it burning any oil but it was leaning out when i tried to rev it a couple of times.


I've spoken to midlandturbo and I'm gonna send it back up to them t have a look, if they say it's all fine I'm gonna fit a scavenger pump to sort it out once and for all


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is the oil feed leaking? which I guess is opposite to the drain

Done now needs redoing lol


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looks like a bit of oil on the bottom of the return hose as well


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Got the turbo off and it is deffo the turbo itself leaking,

Which either means the oil seal is ferked of my oil drain is shit (again)

I'm gonna wait and see what they say and then just fit a scavenger pump


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or find somewhere better to drain to? speedo drive? a pump is just another thing to go wrong imho.

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I would look into putting it into the gearbox with some thing like this.

I have been looking at these oil drains for a while thinking if I ever have to take my engine out again I would fit one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301072163032?ssP...984.m1423.l2648

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024193151?ssP...984.m1423.l2648


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On 8th Sep, 2014 coopdog said:
Got the turbo off and it is deffo the turbo itself leaking,

Which either means the oil seal is ferked of my oil drain is shit (again)

I'm gonna wait and see what they say and then just fit a scavenger pump


More than likely the drain is shit. But have a read.

Simple terms.

Too much oil supply to turbo...especially if a ball bearing unit
Insufficient drain
Excessive crankcase backpressure....which ties in creating insufficient drain

But technically there are no oil seals in a turbocharger, at least not a normal journal bearing. Not 100% sure in BB
There is a piston ring which's primary role is to seal the centre housing from boost or turbine pressure. As a mild secondary it may seal a little against oil. But no oil should ever get to the piston rings in the first place.
So even though it is passing oil now, the chances of this doing damage is almost zero.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=837618

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On 8th Sep, 2014 bakker110 said:
I would look into putting it into the gearbox with some thing like this.

I have been looking at these oil drains for a while thinking if I ever have to take my engine out again I would fit one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301072163032?ssP...984.m1423.l2648

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024193151?ssP...984.m1423.l2648


i was thinking this but i dont want to take the engine out never mind splitting the box to drill and weld it (or tap) haha


On 8th Sep, 2014 evolotion said:
or find somewhere better to drain to? speedo drive? a pump is just another thing to go wrong imho.


i need my speedo drive though, would have a speedo other wise *tongue**tongue*


On 8th Sep, 2014 stevieturbo said:



On 8th Sep, 2014 coopdog said:
Got the turbo off and it is deffo the turbo itself leaking,

Which either means the oil seal is ferked of my oil drain is shit (again)

I'm gonna wait and see what they say and then just fit a scavenger pump


More than likely the drain is shit. But have a read.

Simple terms.

Too much oil supply to turbo...especially if a ball bearing unit
Insufficient drain
Excessive crankcase backpressure....which ties in creating insufficient drain

But technically there are no oil seals in a turbocharger, at least not a normal journal bearing. Not 100% sure in BB
There is a piston ring which's primary role is to seal the centre housing from boost or turbine pressure. As a mild secondary it may seal a little against oil. But no oil should ever get to the piston rings in the first place.
So even though it is passing oil now, the chances of this doing damage is almost zero.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=837618


i took the turbo off and this is where its leaking from

Edited by coopdog on 8th Sep, 2014.


coopdog

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ive been speaking to a couple of people and they said that normaly an oil drain problem will cause smoking from the exhaust.

mine didnt have any smoke from it.

my new oil drain










seeing in a previous thread people didnt have a problem with this oil drain is mine that bad?



could it just be too much oil going in the turbo?

not the best pic sorry





thanks for the help again guys!!

Edited by coopdog on 8th Sep, 2014.


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That's my photo that you reference there. I actually did have issues as mine was smoking although I didn't have a new turbo to gauge against.

I gave up trying to make a single pipe work so did this. And joined it together with a shorter piece of that oil resistant hose. Much better fit in the end.





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In all fairness, this isn't the first topic from the o.p. on this subject. Plenty of people offer advice and put pictures like that up, but...

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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That looks lovely! I might go polish mine now *happy*


On 8th Sep, 2014 bakker110 said:



They don't die, they just get faster!


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On 8th Sep, 2014 apbellamy said:
In all fairness, this isn't the first topic from the o.p. on this subject. Plenty of people offer advice and put pictures like that up, but...


i tried doing it the way you suggested but it wont work,

there is no other way i can do it

the turbo outlet is the screw in type so i cant make a angled piece,

even if made a 90* for the fuel pump blank it wouldnt work, its just way to close together.

im not ignoring your advise it just wont work for my application....


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On 8th Sep, 2014 bakker110 said:
That's my photo that you reference there. I actually did have issues as mine was smoking although I didn't have a new turbo to gauge against.

I gave up trying to make a single pipe work so did this. And joined it together with a shorter piece of that oil resistant hose. Much better fit in the end.






you got a pic of it on the car?


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Then you need to move your turbo up *wink*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Does it smoke?

If there was so much oil passing the seal on the turbine that it runs out of the turbo like that, it would be smoking like a train from the exhaust.

In the 13's at last!.. Just


apbellamy

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Has somebody been hitting your turbo weith a hammer?

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 8th Sep, 2014 coopdog said:




Why have you cut your tappet chest breather?

They don't die, they just get faster!


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On 8th Sep, 2014 theoneeyedlizard said:
Does it smoke?

If there was so much oil passing the seal on the turbine that it runs out of the turbo like that, it would be smoking like a train from the exhaust.


weirdly nothing noticable from the exhaust :/
thats whats weird this time, before the turbo was rebuilt it smoked like mad!!


On 8th Sep, 2014 apbellamy said:
Has somebody been hitting your turbo weith a hammer?



i havent been!! haha


On 8th Sep, 2014 Shauna said:
On 8th Sep, 2014 coopdog said:




Why have you cut your tappet chest breather?


because it was in the way :L

it isnt like that when everything is together, i put the filter on the end of a 90* silcone pipe further up the bay :)


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so do we think the oil drain is useless?
had some people say theirs is pretty much the same.
if this is the case i'll fit a scvanger pump.

or does it need a restrictor in the oil feed?

thanks guys


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maby the core is seeing some pressure from the crank case? pushing/blowing oil out?

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