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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 05:16:12pm
Hi all ,
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 696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 05:31:57pm
Got any pictures? |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 06:06:29pm
Theres the chunk out of the head
Edited by Lee85 on 2nd Sep, 2015. |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 06:42:45pm
Someone may have a piston lying round. Failing that if the new block is worn go for the cast omegas On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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 3673 Posts Member #: 9300 Post Whore Quarry Bonk |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 07:40:34pm
My opinion, looking at the state of that a new block will need to be sourced too, a skim to take that much damage out will massively raise the compression ratio, which is unsuitable for a turbocharged engine. On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!! 17.213 @ 71mph, 64bhp n/a (Old Engine) |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:04:17pm
On 2nd Sep, 2015 Carlzilla said:
My opinion, looking at the state of that a new block will need to be sourced too, a skim to take that much damage out will massively raise the compression ratio, which is unsuitable for a turbocharged engine. Yeah that's the plan .. The op was supposed to say I have an a plus block from an spi mini. I was tempted to see if it could be welded but decided against it |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:08:53pm
On 2nd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
Someone may have a piston lying round. Failing that if the new block is worn go for the cast omegas Are turbo spec pistons not available in the original size then? I wasn't planning on a rebore as the block looks good but I can't find any anywhere . I have had a message from a member that has some original pistons available so I may go down that route if I can't buy good new standard size ones. |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:12:10pm
Last set of OE new turbo pistons I saw available was 10 years ago! On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:15:03pm
On 2nd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
Last set of OE new turbo pistons I saw available was 10 years ago! I'm assuming these are used . Are the rings available? |
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3006 Posts Member #: 2500 Post Whore Buckinghamshire |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:27:48pm
Rings are available but make sure they are the correct ones. There are ring packs out there sold as turbo rings that have a different width oil ring. |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:31:05pm
On 2nd Sep, 2015 Lee85 said:
On 2nd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
Last set of OE new turbo pistons I saw available was 10 years ago! I'm assuming these are used . Are the rings available? New ones have been consigned to history now, people like us keep melting them! Search for total seal in the search box and theres a thread with part numbers somewhere for the correct ones to order. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 08:45:16pm
On 2nd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
On 2nd Sep, 2015 Lee85 said:
On 2nd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
Last set of OE new turbo pistons I saw available was 10 years ago! I'm assuming these are used . Are the rings available? New ones have been consigned to history now, people like us keep melting them! Search for total seal in the search box and theres a thread with part numbers somewhere for the correct ones to order. They missed a trick by discontinuing them ! Thanks I'll check that out . |
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696 Posts Member #: 10034 Post Whore Birmingham |
2nd Sep, 2015 at 09:13:47pm
On 2nd Sep, 2015 Lee85 said:
Are the rings available? Also take a look here. Minispares seem to suggest there were 2 turbo piston part numbers (???) and can supply an alternative ring set for one of them. Best measure the ring sizes though to see if yours matches up. Edited by PhilR on 2nd Sep, 2015. |
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 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
3rd Sep, 2015 at 07:38:55am
I had an issue with the replacement rings for mine if I recall. Think it was the oil control. A few years ago now and I had to get them NOS from another member |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
3rd Sep, 2015 at 02:27:35pm
The only rings available for the standard turbo piston are the Total Seal rings. Those who have tried to find rings from elsewhere either end up with an oil ring that is the wrong size, or just can't find them. There may be the odd set of rings still available (I know a man) but the cost of them then justifies the price on the Total Seal rings.
On 2nd Sep, 2015 PhilR said:
On 2nd Sep, 2015 Lee85 said:
Are the rings available? Also take a look here. Minispares seem to suggest there were 2 turbo piston part numbers (???) and can supply an alternative ring set for one of them. Best measure the ring sizes though to see if yours matches up. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
3rd Sep, 2015 at 07:57:43pm
Thanks for all the help guys.
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461 Posts Member #: 9229 Senior Member newcastle upon tyne |
3rd Sep, 2015 at 08:35:59pm
I got total seal for mine best way to go I did buy mini spares ones first but as above oil control ring was wrong so had to go total seals |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
3rd Sep, 2015 at 08:38:35pm
best get the ignition and fueling sorted so it doesn't happen again. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
4th Sep, 2015 at 04:51:29pm
On 3rd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
best get the ignition and fueling sorted so it doesn't happen again. What exactly would that involve? ( I'm still very much learning here ) I had planned to give the carb a good clean out and set then timing up to standard settings . is there more to it ? |
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 362 Posts Member #: 114 Senior Member Porto/Portugal |
4th Sep, 2015 at 06:33:11pm
No, it's not. Pachancho, a portuguese company, makes them.
On 3rd Sep, 2015 Sprocket said:
The only rings available for the standard turbo piston are the Total Seal rings. Those who have tried to find rings from elsewhere either end up with an oil ring that is the wrong size, or just can't find them. There may be the odd set of rings still available (I know a man) but the cost of them then justifies the price on the Total Seal rings. Pedro Silva
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
4th Sep, 2015 at 07:40:48pm
On 4th Sep, 2015 Lee85 said:
On 3rd Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
best get the ignition and fueling sorted so it doesn't happen again. What exactly would that involve? ( I'm still very much learning here ) I had planned to give the carb a good clean out and set then timing up to standard settings . is there more to it ? Check the carb is in good health, set the ignition timing correctly and its probably worth getting the car set up on a rolling road, to ensure the fueling is correct and the timing is what the gun says it is. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
4th Sep, 2015 at 07:46:05pm
Cost delivered to a UK address?
On 4th Sep, 2015 sim_ou_nao said:
No, it's not. Pachancho, a portuguese company, makes them. http://www.pachancho.pt/web1/zp/tpl1/id1/ On 3rd Sep, 2015 Sprocket said: The only rings available for the standard turbo piston are the Total Seal rings. Those who have tried to find rings from elsewhere either end up with an oil ring that is the wrong size, or just can't find them. There may be the odd set of rings still available (I know a man) but the cost of them then justifies the price on the Total Seal rings. Edited by Sprocket on 4th Sep, 2015. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 1751 Posts Member #: 10190 Post Whore belgium |
4th Sep, 2015 at 08:13:21pm
total seal us has 4 different numbers for the rings... but what a ring set!! i have had a block skimmed original size turbo pistons and total seal rings.... started to turn engine over while upside down on table... started to struggle i thought i done something wrong. but it apeared to suck vacuum on the table top! you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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362 Posts Member #: 114 Senior Member Porto/Portugal |
4th Sep, 2015 at 08:14:19pm
I'm not selling them.
Pedro Silva
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12 Posts Member #: 11206 Member West Bromwich B71 |
5th Sep, 2015 at 05:15:13pm
On 4th Sep, 2015 minimole23 said:
Check the carb is in good health, set the ignition timing correctly and its probably worth getting the car set up on a rolling road, to ensure the fueling is correct and the timing is what the gun says it is. Thanks for your help minimole 😊 Now if I can source one good turbo piston I'll place an order for those rings . The donor block is now stripped down ready for a thorough clean . |
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