water to clean engine.
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so i was bored and started looking on the web and found some things about adding water to fuel ( wouldnt be super idea if you ask me) but also some things about water mist spraying onto the carb air inlet to clean an engine inside. now i heard about water injection to cool race engine's but to clean it on this way? sounds dangerous but intresting.

thoughts?

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Would washing up liquid in the petrol tank have the same effect?

It's just steam cleaning, hold the throttle about half then lightly mist water from a spray bottle down the carb is what I've seen done. It's why the bores look clean when a head gasket goes into a waterway

why not just use sand, free port & polish not just a clean up

the problem i see is the masive raise of compresion since the water cant be compressed like fuel air mix. rest does make sence somehow. although... getting all that dirth loose in the cilinder bores and valve seats etc... just wanted your thoughts on these since it seemed something intresting

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
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finish date set for project 1... march 2018

Fuel can't be compressed either.

Water does expand somewhat when turned to steam (about a thousand times) and more so when superheated. Quick way to extra power if you can get it to work.

Metric is for people who can't do fractions.

Water injection is know to keep the combustion chambers cleaner than without it, but simply pouring in water with a crude spray at fast idle for a short while, will do fuck all.

So another mith from in the days that cars ran only 6to1 cilinder presure and wore build out of hand carved steel.

The one with the sand i read once. An article about a guy with a honda or audi that wanted to polich ports? Was a good laugh!

Sprocket. They did talk about mist spraying ( still water probebly would condens into big drops)

So only for the big powered cars with pistons of steel then. Wasn't here someone here who had water injection on his mini?

Edited by Rammie2000 on 9th Dec, 2015.

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finish date set for project 1... march 2018

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/off-topic-...ne-wrong-80267/

Thats the one!

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finish date set for project 1... march 2018

I did, and im certain im not alone, robert runs(ran?) It on his tvr aswell. I tried pre and post turbo, pre turbo using a home made setup with a screenwash pump and aerosol nossles and once i saw the benefits i went post turbo with an aem setup, huge pump, progressive controller(referenced to boost) etc

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Denis O'Brien.

its on your build tread? so you inject it trough the air inlet of the turbo? doesnt it make big droplets in the intercooler then? or do i get it wrong?

Edited by Rammie2000 on 9th Dec, 2015.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018

origionally I injected into inlet of turbo, was on a hobbs switch so only active at boost over 7psi. given the airflow and the fact the turbo compressor was stirring it up it never pooled, no. later setup I had an atomising nossle fed at about 75psi right at the throttle body, again set to only come on about 10ish psi. If its not in my build thread Iv certainly talked about it lots on here and 16vminiclub.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

I used to spray 3 -5 gallon per hour on 15 - 30 psi

Pistons came out as good as they went in,

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Don't get me wrong, water injection and the end results, is amazing!

gr4h4m runs 50/50 water/meth injection on his supercharged, it uses atomizing nozzles and only injects at the upper boost levels.

A garden sprayer into a half open throttle for a few minuets at idle is at best, half arsed

I'm using the Aqumist stuff. Not really made the most of it yet. But am using a bit more timing now and haven't consumed a single head gasket since its been fitted.

In the 13's at last!.. Just

I tried water injection, I tried injection pre turbo, and in post intercooler, I could see no real gains in power, although engine did run cooler.

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I have a simple setup with a headlight washer pump, a solinoid and .675 nozzle.
Switched at 5psi via vems. I only run 12psi max boost.
We saw the intake temps drop into the 40 deg range. I haven't changed the timing it's just for extra help with knock and the high intake temps.
The solinoid is the most unreliable item, I'm switching it out for a proper water meth jobbie.

I run a supercharger and I don't care the TB is on the wrong side.
VEMS + 12 PSI + Liquid Intercooler = Small Bore FUN!

To be honest and im probably gonna be laughed at BUT.... id never heard of water injection! Before reading this thread i would of thought the idea was as crazy as the audi/sand engine!

Rich had it on his turbo van too, i have the old plenum off that where the nozzle was originally fitted.

been in use as far back as world war 2( and probably further )
used to help create more power in piston engines and more thrust in turbine engines, the Harrier used it to great effect to cool the engine as well as boost thrust

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Yes been reading that just 2 hours ago. Water methanol mix 50/50 and apparently very popular with diesel engines to.... does begin to sound nice thing to do. Although from performance point of view not to clean an engine that wasn't build for it. But how about rust?

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018

mine gave no increase in power, what it did do though was allow me to go from 19psi of boost (detonation limited due to high CR) to 30+psi with more advance and not a hint of detonation. that obviously have a whopping increase in power, and one day the water injection failed (this was my bodgy pre-turbo setup) mid motorway pull and she instantly detonated and cracked some ringlands.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

I also remember the engine ran noticibly quieter when spraying :)

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So what are you guys thinking of it. The advantages are bigger then the disadvantages or... it sounds like the ones who went to the water side like it. Seen some turbos on the web from a pre turbo setup who eroded the blades in to thin... water not air ;-D

I started looking at it from a bored point of view ( having nothing to do in class while the kids make there exams) but starts sounding like something rather nice. Although probably sounds easyer then it all actually is.

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

finish date set for project 1... march 2018

The only drawback is running out of water/meth when your tune is relying on it (which it should be if you're making use of the kit).

Although Setting up some kind of fail safe would overcome this issue.

Other than that, there is no downside.

In the 13's at last!.. Just