What cam????????
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Hi there im building a 1293 turbo engine for my mini, i am thinking of putting an Avonbar phase 3 turbo cam into it, is this a good idea or is there a better cam to consider. please help. i will be looking to get around 130bhp at the wheels.

Depends what you use if you. The phase 3 will be a bit of a pain to drive on the road as its more of a race cam. However if your looking at road and track days then the phase 2 will suit you just fine

A 2 will do you!

I Have a 3 in mine, although i have had it set up i am not totally happy with it. My 2 pulled from 1500 rpm in top.

Even a mg metro cam is worth a go if you are on a budget, it has a long exhaust duration which suits turbos.

a cam alone won't get you that kind of power ofcourse.

Edited by giallofly on 3rd Mar, 2004.

has anyone tried the swiftune sw5 cam in a turbo motor yet?

giallofly - Why do you say your not happy with the Phase 3 ?
That was one of my possible choices for this years cam.

I have used a Phase 2 and it does seem an excellent road useable cam.

Phil.

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i have a HUUUUUGE flat spot between 3000 & 3700 rpm, it is very very potant cam, revs to 7200 in top gear.It will be back on the rollers in a few weeks and i will post the outcome.

it could be other issues other than just the cam profile and timings,a stand alone dyno would do it wonders i am sure.

Put it this way i did my(the) fastest ever 1/4 turbo mini time on a phases 2 cam. they are good.

has any1 ever heard of an avonbar phase 1 cam as the bloke i bought my engine off said it had one fitted but not heard ne1 else even mention it?

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

i have used all three phases of the Avonbar cam,even the MG item. the phase 1 was raceyer than the MG,the 2 seemed not disimilar to the 1 in drivability terms and the 3 is an animal!

In fact Ian at Avonbar gave me the 1st phase 2 F.O.C. to test.

I dont disagree with the dilution problems, if i cant iron out this mid range flat spot i resort back to the phase 2..

Am i right in thinking the avonbar phase 2 is identical to the MED/Piper t3 cam?

I seem to remember someone saying that...

Think so!

MED Piper cam data.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gibbo.100/

Why cant I insert it as a picture?
Computers get on my tits some times

Edited by Gibbo on 9th Mar, 2004.

thats a touch big for a picture... but all you need to do is this:

at the front put [img ] then the link then [/img ]

I've had to put spaces in the [ ] so as they don't work and disaper from view :)

Alex

AlexF

The MED phase 3 and Avonbar Phase 2 are the same, I have the timming figures for both

Team Racing

The MED cam comes in a Piper box too!

I know this is an old thread but you did say to use the search.

I have started stripping the metro turbo engine I bought and I am thinking of using a different cam to increase power.

I have a MED ST2 HT (high torque) that I was going to use a few years back on another engine build. I have asked MED for the technical information on this. Does anyone else know this cam. Is it the same as t3 under a different name?

Thanks
David

RE83T for torque and nice till 6300rpm

RE13T for power and lots of it, good till 8000rpm...

Both from Graham Russell in Australia, pretty sure you guys could get them through K. Calver...?

“A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.” - Jeremy Clarkson

Its a phase 2 all the way in my book on a billet, the billet cam will give you 4 to 6 BHP more than a reprofiled cam with the added benefit of X drilled. all the followers are oil fed.

There are a good many cams out there which have been mentioned above

As one Parisian Turbo expert on here mentioned, he described the phase2 as a hungry lion......... he's. Not wrong!

Hope this helps

so why does a billet cam give 4 to 6 hp more?

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Edited by Sprocket on 3rd Jun, 2012.

well I would think the profile would be the same, and the only difference would be rocker geometry, but thats not really the cam giving more power.... its the rocker geometry being fucked and giving less.

Also I'm not overly impressed with the RE13t, its ok, but it dosent seem much (if any) better than a ph 2, but then my set up may be better suited to a more docile cam, certainly cant hit 8k though.

Im going to be using a kent 266, i was told it was the closest to an mg metro cam that you could buy thats brand new and not worn to shit

the 266 is good,

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I was under the assumtion that cam grinders used the same "template" which inclues the bace circle, and gust ground the cam enough to get the desired profile whilst getting a clean cam nose.