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Vegard

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I've always liked TL1000s... Could be because of the fact that it's got torque.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



tadge44

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TL 1000,s are OK if you weigh over 16 stones (like me) and keep your weight well forward.

My Bandit 1200 was a bit lively until I had Ron Williams of Maxton sort the suspension and after that I just rode it
(until I dumped it at at Donington)


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What do you mean by lively (twitchy?) and what needed doing tadge?

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

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upgraded from a sv650 to a gsxr750 k4

like this

"Tuning should be a compromise between what is possible and what is necessary"

10)Thou shalt always quest for more power


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The problem with these bikes was the lack of stearing damper which was rectified on UK bikes.
I am F***d if I know why Suzuki made a 170kg is bike with 135bhp with no stearing damper you only need to hit a cats eye and you get a slapper.
Early R1's Blades etc all had the same problem if you rode the hard.
Allan


On 31st Mar, 2010 Nic said:


You're a brave man!!

Arent these the ones with the rotary damper that kept killing people

http://www.rabdunn.co.uk/


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Joey, the Bandit was extremely"nervous" all the time and I had Maxton revalve and respring the forks and produce a custom made rear shock, all to my spec and taking into account my weight and riding style.The bike had only done about 3000 miles at the time, and was used a lot on track days.The Mmaxton stuff turned it from a bike that you were a bit unsure of to one you simply got on and rode. The Donington incident was self inflicted -too fast, braked too late and forgot to relax and let the bike do the work.
BTW the suspension work cost nearly four figures and this was about 10 years ago.

I have to declare an opinion on steering dampers -if you need one there is something wrong with the bike -could be design i.e steep steering angle for quick response, or weight distribution or out of spec parts(worn)All they do is mask the problem, usually quite sucessfully it has to be said.


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On 1st Apr, 2010 tadge44 said:
J
I have to declare an opinion on steering dampers -if you need one there is something wrong with the bike -could be design i.e steep steering angle for quick response, or weight distribution or out of spec parts(worn)All they do is mask the problem, usually quite sucessfully it has to be said.

You are very wrong on this one is a steep steering angle for quick response wrong ?
The hayabusa has one stock and all GSXR's Blades R1s and all race bikes so are these bikes all wrong ?
Allan

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Its my opinion and Im sticking to it.The bikes you mention are deliberately made very highly responsive for those that can handle it and the steering damper is there for those who cant.


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Hi joeybaby! Not over for the TT this year, we were hoping to but loads couldn't go so we're going next year instead. We've bought a van between us to take the bikes to trackdays and stuff and we're hoping to go to the south of France with the little bikes in the van and ride when we get there.Whe I say little, I mean one of my LC's!


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joeybaby
I am coming over in a couple of weeks to race my mini at the Manx Classic.
Come and see me in the paddock.
Allan

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So do you think valentino rossi casey stoner etc are just big girls as they all run dampers.
If you go real fast on any FAST light bike you need a damper not my opinion but fact.
Allan
Ps I raced bikes 17 years and won many races and championships inc a win at the IOM


On 1st Apr, 2010 tadge44 said:
Its my opinion and Im sticking to it.The bikes you mention are deliberately made very highly responsive for those that can handle it and the steering damper is there for those who cant.

http://www.rabdunn.co.uk/


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Brill, will be good to meet you Allan


Tadge, your into dirt bikes arent you? What tyre pressure do you run?

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

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I run 14psi front and rear on my XR400 on pretty stiff knobblies, but I am 16 stones.It depends on the terrain -if its dry and hard you need some pressure to avoid damaging tyres and rims, but in the mud you can use less.My Bultaco trial bikes use about 5 in the front and 3 in the rear,but you would not like to go fast on the road -maybe it needs a steering damper ?.


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Tadge,

apparently Allan knows his bikes lol

http://www.iomtt.com/TT-Database/Events/Ra...LL&ride_id=4048

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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On 31st Mar, 2010 joeybaby83 said:
tasty, got any pics of that steering damper


Hopefully this'll show you the detail joey.

Yes this was the one with the rotary damper that got the bad rep, but I've got to be honest the bike's done alright by me (and I'm only 12 stone)!
Shortly after I bought it, I put second hand bodywork on (there was enough about!), bought a second pair of wheels, put on part worn slicks and went on track days *happy*.
I soon started grinding away the foot pegs (the double apex right hander onto the back straight at Donnington was a favourite) and I ended up snapping off the rear break lever at Bishops Court in Northern Ireland! Harris rear set sorted that out.
The rear damper did start to 'go off' after perhaps 4 laps, which lead to the strange sensation of the bike moving around, but not the rear tyre (hot slicks, frame flex!), but I took this as my/the bikes limit and didn't push any more. It was good to surprise the out-and-out sports bikes, and if the latest R1/Blades did pass...8-)
And I agree with the comments about fitting dampers - before this I had a YZF750R, a brilliant handling bike (only gotten rid of, cause it was written off *oh well*). Even that used to get a bit 'squirrely' (copyright Swantz/Rainey c 1990) gassing it on the road.
You've got me wishing for a good summer now *happy*


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funnily enough, my neighbour popped in tonight and hes a bike nut, he was saying its something to do with the suspension unit being close to the exhaust or something

he has a sv750 and was thinking about putting a tl1000 lump in it, be he decided his frame flexed enough witht he std lump so left it, hes also got a busa too, but hes annoyed with that at the moment as the fan switch failed and cooked the engine

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

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John K,,, i knew you were nutso all along,,, i used to swing for an 1100cc Motocross sidecar outfit, yep 1100cc on the dirt, big gap jumps & berms etc,,,& yep-> it`s total loonacy, Ive never ever been more totally stuffed/rooted/worn-out than doin that stuff.

I really don`t know how i`m still alive after that fling (i was only a young pup tho)

However, at the time i was racing 500cc motocross so i suppose the brains get taken out & shoved into where you balls are connected when we do this sort of stuff, lower center of gravity you see *smiley*

My ride is "still" a KX500,,, Man they`re just the balls-y-est thing on the planet !!!

I`m trying to chase down a decent Yamaha MT01 at the moment,,, look em up, they`re butt ugly but great big bags of torque 1700cc V-twin,,, Mmmm hangin for a fangin *smiley*

The good thing is that my girlfriend actually likes them too *smiley*

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On 1st Apr, 2010 AllanMcD said:
The problem with these bikes was the lack of stearing damper which was rectified on UK bikes.
I am F***d if I know why Suzuki made a 170kg is bike with 135bhp with no stearing damper you only need to hit a cats eye and you get a slapper.
Early R1's Blades etc all had the same problem if you rode the hard.
Allan


On 31st Mar, 2010 Nic said:


You're a brave man!!

Arent these the ones with the rotary damper that kept killing people




blimey 135 bhp/80 lb/ft and 170 kg (wet full tank),and i took mine OFF ! LOL

to be honest , with bridgestone 090's it was very twitchy hitting cats eyes cornering at over 125 mph or even just changing gear !. but with dunlop 207's its better without it and much more grip too .
i think it comes down to the tyre a lot .

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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Has anyone noticed the plumbing arrangements on this bike ?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ1srcQMa_0

im officially terrified of my bike now haha

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

"did you know you can toast potato waffles?"



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That was a lad I know paul orritt he set of 10 second in front of me when I got to the bottom of bray hill and saw bits everywhere I thought *surprised*
The race was stopped about 2 or 3 minutes later when I saw the red flag I assumed there was death involved but he was ok lost a finger or two but ok considering what happened.
Allan

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Ride my beemer to work today, it's so 80's !

I totally sit on the bike whereas I was almost part of the previous one.

It's gonna give some interest back in driving and probably need some miles before I can drive it at decent speed ...

Funny thing though is as I was going uphill, the bike really felt "unstoppable" (vs the previous one) exactly what I was looking for !

Rusty by nature

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They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!"


minimad01

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my old bike witch i miss
had so much power onli a 50 cc but was tuned
o an me dads bike :)
an a link to me on my road pit bike watch it to see how much power it actually had (thats a 1.4 16v clio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-uPSnK7n8
Edit the zx10 now has a carbon fibre exhaust on witch spits flames an sounds fooking awsum


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[quote=robert,2nd Apr, 2010]

i think it comes down to the tyre a lot .
quote]
Got to agree. On the road I've always preferred Pirelli or Metz (same company really) - nice round profile and steady rolling into a corner.
On the track I once used a part worn Dunlop qualifier front tyre which had a profile like a pyramid! (Make sure you get the tyre warmed up when using part-worn slicks through, but when they are......*happy*)


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Ironically my 750 cc bike (Ducati 748R will probably have more power at the wheels than my 1330 turbo project (111 bhp in current form). Agree on the Dunlops , will change over to these next.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbR5DQyixlI

Edited by NealfromNZ on 8th Apr, 2010.

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