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Compression ratio ? Boost run ?

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open the map in a window hit "print scrn" button (above teh cursors) open paint, hit edit and paste. then crop and save the picture and upload it :)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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Or if you have Vista you may have a program called "Snipping Tool" which helps you capture the bit you want.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


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Cr is believed to be iro 8.5:1, head has 28cc +20 pistons with 10cc dish, std stroke. Have checked the peak boost read out on my boost controller and it reads 14.2 pound.

Lady luck has well and truely desertyed me, lol
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Is 28 deg not a bit much advance in the full boost sites at 4-6000rpm??


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


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Will retrive the MJ map off the ecu, looking at it I may of shown you the incorrect map.
Sorry chaps
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On 15th Jul, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Is 28 deg not a bit much advance in the full boost sites at 4-6000rpm??


I would have thought the same to be honest. What do they use to set the timing on the rollers?

Im gutted for you aswell especially after all your hard work!

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Don't forget with the cast omegas your 40 thou down the bore with a stock deck height. From my calcs you might be a bit lower than 8.5:1, not that this post really helps you much of course! Really sorry for you!:(

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maybe those will be ok ? i hope!
thanks for the races we had shane.
28 does seem a lot ,id expect more in the region of 24 ish .

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An absolute pleasure Robert, wa a hoot.


On 15th Jul, 2009 robert said:
maybe those will be ok ? i hope!
thanks for the races we had shane.
28 does seem a lot ,id expect more in the region of 24 ish .


Been thinking about the map, firstly couldnt be fucked to go out and check, opted for a bottle of red instead.
Been checking the maps I have used on previous roller sessions. If memory serves correct when we tested engine no2 (the 40 a day smoker) I think Ray dialed the extra 2 degrees to compenate for inaccuracy in the sensor position, so effectively max advance is 26?
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i'm sure ray had you set it to 26 shane.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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He did, but if you recall we upped it a little and lost power so reduced it? Or am I being a C**T as normal?
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in the nicest way mate, that map's basic at best, even if the max advance is correct your definately not making the best of the engine. though if the max advance is indeed det-free then the map shouldnt have done any harm..

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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That looks very much like Jackmans did after his trip back from IMM Denmark. That was pre ignition after unknowingly putting 92 unleaded in an engine best suited for 97 and a minimum of 95. Spark plug had melted.

The crown of the piston has got so hot that it has expanded and started to sieze in the bore, only at the very top. only seems to happen along the pin axis where there is obviously more material around the pin to expand.

Has it left any metal on the top of the bore?

Pre ignition could be as a result of high dynamic compression ratio and high inlet charge temps, 28 total advance seems a bit much, no? Im running 31 on my NA motor. I supose it depends on your CR and boost.

I really do feel for you mate, but I dont think its terninal, I cleaned up Jackmans pistons and they are still running now.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 15th Jul, 2009 evolotion said:
in the nicest way mate, that map's basic at best, even if the max advance is correct your definately not making the best of the engine. though if the max advance is indeed det-free then the map shouldnt have done any harm..


Agree dennis, but you have to start somewhere.

Colin, I make a point of onlt running 97 ron, normally Bp super unleaded. Appreciate the optimism about it not being terminal, but unfornatly doubt it.
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long as your aware mate :) try get yourself a wideband, could be some kidn of issue on transition, gearchanges, acceleration etc that affect the fueling on teh road but cannot be replicated on the dyno. really hope the pistons are salvageable, if its any conselation, i have absolutely destroyed a piston liner and conrod and im sure were no the only casualties. chin up :)

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

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Thats a good effort dennis! but not supprising concidering you out put!

Right, have copied the map from the MJ, minus all values by two degrees for the inacuracy of the vr position. I hosestly have no ide where I pulled the other map from.
Gonna rip the block out and tear down on Sat afternoon. Funds are going to be the big issue again, and yet again a tight deadline.
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what are you going to do for pistons this time?

another set of omega's?

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Yes, hopefully. But depends on the cash situation, at the moment it all hinges on two things, damaged caused and pay day. Reluctant to throw another wedge of notes at it for the two and a half months left this year it will be on the road?
Shane


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just go with the 21253's and have them machined dude, if it all goes tits up again at least they're cheapest ones about.

I run them with no issues and so did nic.

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I appreciate what your saying nick, but after seeing the difference in quality between the mega range and the omegas, im reluctant to fit a cheap piston. I know I have had faiures with both but the omegas went due to poor quality. Tho £90 a set is temting, but then its finding a stockist then getting them machiened, with the omegas I know MED have them on the shelf.
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I Have ben looking at widebands but have confused th hell out of myself, using th search button only made it worse. do I need a laptop or interface with it to work or can I just fit one and monitor, sorry for my ignorance on the subject.
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On 16th Jul, 2009 evolotion said:
long as your aware mate :) try get yourself a wideband, could be some kidn of issue on transition, gearchanges, acceleration etc that affect the fueling on teh road but cannot be replicated on the dyno. really hope the pistons are salvageable, if its any conselation, i have absolutely destroyed a piston liner and conrod and im sure were no the only casualties. chin up :)


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just get a gauge that lives in the dash and be done

I can recommend the Stack one, it has lots of pretty knight rider style lights


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is this Ray guy supposed to be good?

If so, how can he map a megajolt for a turbo engine 1D???

you would have gotten the same result with a dizzy without vacuum...


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On 17th Jul, 2009 miniminor63 said:
is this Ray guy supposed to be good?

If so, how can he map a megajolt for a turbo engine 1D???

you would have gotten the same result with a dizzy without vacuum...


Uncle Ray is the Daddy!!

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........

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