Class D changes?
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if was down to "seeing what the car will do" then they would enter the right class. they dont because they feel they are just pushing the rules not breaking them. thats what motorsport is all about.

unless the BMC enforces some proper regulations there will always be a massive grey area and obvious cheats.

if it was just about seeing what there car would do then they would enter the right class. they dont because they feel they are only pushing the rules and not breaking them.

The british mini club would have to bring in proper regulations and check every car, but they dont have the money, the time or the experience. instead its all done as fun.

its just a shame some people dont understand the term "road legal" and read it as "race car with number plates and road tyres"

road legal means just that, road legal. if its not MOT'd etc then it aint road legal

next year i'm fitting a turbo V8 and a carbon fibre shell

weren't the top 3 last year all road cars? was it tim, nic and matt who got the top spots?

mines a road car, drive it to work and back every day aswell as all the shows i go to. Wish i could aford to keep it as a 2nd car though.

i think Bud666 you are correct and as i was 4th place so it would seem all the main players were playing fair. but consider next year. how would you feel if you got deprived of a trophy by one of the many race cars/none road legal/cheats?

Well said Nic.

nic. not having a dig at you. as i said i FULLY understand trailering a car and would if i had a trailer.

mine does have an MOT (just) and no i didnt purchase it over the phone.lol

Nic i think you are fully in the spirit of the event and would pat you on the back for doing a very good time.

Nic, I'm with you on this one ... even though the strip is not my natural habitat.

I will be taking the Candice's car to Avon this year if I can, with a tent and a boot full of proper beer (probably wrong but as most blocks in general drink larger rather than proper ale I guess it will be in short supply ... how many pint bottles can you fit in the boot of a Mini ...LOL).

Closest the car will get to the track is parked outside though .... can't be bothered to fit the slicks and carbon shell for the weekend to have take it all off again by Monday morning .... the paint will never be dry in time ..... LOL

Seriously though I am a little lost with all this.....

I didn't think it carried any prize and if no prize it must just be for fun so why are people so emotional over it?????

Surely if you get beaten by a car that is not in the spirit of the class then you will just forget that car ever raced that day in your own mind .... if you beat them you'll feel even more smug in the beer tent...

If it is really that much of a problem with 'cheats' people need to stand up and be counted by the BMC and tell them straight ..... make people play by the rules or else people won't want to come again. In my experience most people respond best when hit in their most sensitive part ... the wallet!!!

Tom's idea of running a table for the TM crew is a good one.

I am sorry for piping up but this sort of nonsense is the reason I stopped racing as it took all the fun out of it, especially when everybody else, including other cheats, were at each other all the time and I finsihed 2nd in that championship with the ONLY car built to the sprit of the regs let alone the letter of them!!!

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

Another can of worms...........

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I've never competed at Avon, yet , but i was always under the impression that Class D, which is the one i watch most (mainly due to knowing a few guys who take part) was, as has been said for road legal, forced induction A series minis with steel sheels. I was under the impression that cars were checked on the sat to ensure they conformed with the rules, however it seems that is not the case? or are we saying cars 'change' from sat to sun? and BMC take no notice?
I find that quite dissapointing to be honest. :(
As for class I, its a total crock of shite in my view, thats one class, that should be split into road / non road legal, or, whisper this!! road legal only!!!!
So what if it pisses the Edwards family off, they only make up what?, 5% of class I.

As for the suggestion of a 'Turbominis' cup. Excellent idea! To be presented to the quickest member from here on sunday, who's car met (and ran in) Class D.
To be kept for one year, with associated bragging rights!!
Win it three times on the trot and you keep it.

Rich

Edited by Richspec on 2nd Jan, 2007.

Here for the craic..

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^^^^ I hear that ^^^^

Bragging rights heaven. A single TM trophy, which must be returned in the weeks before Avon, and will sit atop the headgasket bar, and be presented to Nic, opps, I mean Jim, oops, I mean Jon, oops, I mean Tim, ooops, I mean superadam when they win; this allows each of us to individually and seperately inspect (casually) each others cars...
Run slicks, and you're out of the running LOL!

:)

even on the back?

We could make up a fairly simple set of rules for a TM cup

And i think to fund the first year a £1 entry? or maybe every year and the proceeds to the TM server?

£1's not the end of the day and every little helps

Just a thought

Sounds good to me, even if I can't win it.

Who was running slicks? Usually you find people running them on the Saturday when it doesn't count, then put road tyres on for the event on Sunday.

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TM cup sounds good, ill donate but do you get your money back if you dont win?

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Yeah, you have to go through the 0898 t-u-r-b-o-m-i-n-i number to start the claims process. Calls cost 38p/min and you'll be on there at least 4 minutes. If an irishman answers, put the phone down and try again later, kind of affair...

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

I'll get a cup sorted

Excellent!

What about a "Spirit of Class D" award to be given to a car/driver who has worked hardest to get there?

Thats a great idea too!

is that cup a good idea? if there was to ever be another year like 2006 where many people didnt run and for what ever reason i ended up winning, i would imagine that id end up loosing the tm cup

what else could we have?
and i think it should be for something other than winning so everyone can have a chance

(hmmm most items stolen, whilst drunk on dodgems cup??)

I don't follow you Nic????

One thing is for sure - you have to be a 110% recognised member of TurboMinis; and pre-register on the site beforehand to be 'in'....

Hopefully Jimbo will start preparing his second 16v engine in the back with two weeks before the event in 2007. This should still allow a good chance of the 'sprit of the event' award, as it'll be another 48-hr solid stint before turning up with eyes like two piss-holes in the snow late saturday afternoon LOL!

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Think you should state single engine for class D in case he does drop anther K headed lump in the rear????


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How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

Yes Nic piece of mind is a great thing mate, i blow me gearbox up at retro car one year, and it was a very long day getting her home. So if i had one i've prob use it :)

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