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On 26th of Jan, 2007 at 11:40am Turbo Shed said:
s discs and reverse rims cannot be illegal and they were supplied by the factory


Traffic police aren't that educated in the rules and regs of times gone by and only really worry about today (and the ones they make up for a bit of a luagh!!). By todays construction and use rules it would be illegal so most coppers will see it that way. Remember we live in Britain, a country where your guilty to proven inocent for all driving offences!!!

It would be up to you to prove, to a courts satisfaction, that they were as factory spec. If you got a really grumpy judge then your liekly to be told "that was a Cooper S, your car is not a Cooper S". By that time it will have cost you hundreds, probalby thousands by the time your hit with all the costs and fees for your own legal representation.
I am not 100% sure what tyre size was fitted to the Cooper S but I am fairly sure it was narrower than most of the current 165s (overall width wise) as all the Cooper S's I have seen with original spec wheels and tyres on have had the full tread inside the arches. My own S was a gravel spec rally car and ran 5" wide wheels so needed, and raced with, grp2 arches on.

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On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:

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But, the original S wheels aren't reverse rims. That's why the thread of the tyre is inside the arch.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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On 26th of Jan, 2007 at 12:40pm calum_lorimer said:


For group 2's i'd recommend somerford, they fit perfectly and were supplied really well finished.


Are they available now? They haven't been for a couple of years, but the old ones were great.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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Ye, i had to wait ages for them to start making them again. as far as i know there now in full production again.


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On 26th of Jan, 2007 at 01:20pm Vegard said:
But, the original S wheels aren't reverse rims. That's why the thread of the tyre is inside the arch.


Exactly, proper S rims are fine but the reverse ones have an extra inch offset don't they?

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cooper and S models came with 3.5" rims and 4.5" rims as standard, but you could get the reverse rim as an optional extra. reverse rims are 4.5" but with more offset.

i think the main reason for the reverse rim was so drum brake minis could have the same wider rim without fouling the shock/radius arm.

why do cops get so funny about these things when there are people driving around in transit vans who dont pay income tax and dont insure, tax or mot anything they drive/steal.


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Your right, so to recap: reverse rims and drums are OK as are s wheels and discs, just not reverse rims and s discs unless you have arches.

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would it be the worst chrime for me to run 145/70/10 on my reverse rims & s-disks & just a chrome deluxe trim, or would it affect the handling/grip, i quite like the way my mini drives on the wheel & tyre combo i have, i think i'll get some group 2's to be safe but if it looks cack (to me) with arches i'll move up to archs & 6"wine alloys i think

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Yep, any visible tread when viewed from above the arch is 100% illegal

my car is like this, and when i was pulled it was pointed out, but forgotten to be put on the producer, just because we've passed many an mot doesnt mean its legal

reverse rims were NEVER supplied by the factory

however what you could do to get round it, is just fit the std wheels back on and get the form stamped, job done as the wheels are no longer sticking out

Edited by Nic on 26th Jan, 2007.


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Not really in the sprit of things though hey Nic .... *wink*

As for why the coppers do this sort of thing it's very simple;

1) it's easier to prey on the motorist that stops than one they have to make an effort to catch!
2) it they come down hard on average Joe for minor things they think average Joe will think "hey, if they are treating me like this how harsh are they on real crooks????" and then think "what a great job the police are doing making my country safe!!!".
2a) 2 is based on the fact they think we're all stupid!!!!!!

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On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:

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Sorry to hi jack the thread but i've been thinking about new arches on my mini for a while as i want to put 10 x 6" cobra supaslots on my car and like the group2 arches, but were wondering would these cover that size wheel?

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That will depend on the offset of the wheel but I have 13x6s under grp2's and it's all legal so long as I run the trim strip on them.......

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How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:

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