PLEASE HELP WITH NEXT STEP :( **setting fuel pressure?**
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cant get there though its all the way in town
im catching first bus into town tomorow to get oil though what is it, 20/50 yeah? ill get the expensive castrol stuff thats good isnt it?

cant wait to hear it roar! Cant see anything stopping it now.

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Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

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20/50 is the best but don't get expensive stuff at first, run some cheaper stuff for half an hour to get the petrol out of the system then put top 20/50 in.

Speedster turbo under construction

lol sure theres something in some FAQ about that bolt...

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

As soon as I read this post, I knew what you had done!
Did that on a 1275 before, got me scared!

Glad you sorted it

i just cant believe it. Ive just got back from town, got some 11 quid cheapy 20/50 oil to run it with down to town, then ill buy the 15/40 castrol maganetec i think :) Right, off to line up this enigne moutn again, got work at 1, hope to get it started before then!

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

Keep us informed!!

Wouldnt bother with the magnatec to be honest. Id get some 20/50 valvoline or something.

?11 for cheap 20/50?!? Mine cost me ?3 a gallon for cheap mineral oil!! Its good for initial testing and stuff.

ive hit a few problems.

Number one, should the cooper tank keep pumping even when the engine is not running, or does it stop when it reaches a certain point? Its not making sounds, and cant hear it at the same time i crank it over. So that could be the problem there.

Ive got the oil pressure to 50, so thats fine, but the boost guage fllicks round to -20 straight away. The car turns over, and kicks in and gives it all to run, gets a few revs with a bit of throttle, but not for long it dies a few seconds after i let go of the starter it just stops.

I also cant get the flywheel casing side engine moutn in now. How on earth do you do it. I can get them lined up above, but no matter how much i jump on the side of the engine it will not go down! I can wedge it down with a screw driver, but then the mount half just springs straight back up and i cant get the bolt in, its taken my most of the morning to try and solve. Is there a special tecnique to doing them? If i cant find a way, im going to need to take all the oil cooler and radiator off the other side to get to that one to undo it, but the exhaust and stuff aswell :(

The third thing that i need to ask advice on is the MBC. at the moment its completely turned arround away from the +, so its set to zero. Does this mean the boost is released at 0psi? Is that why it dies? If i turn it round a few times, it will make it not open or something wont it? Im confused

sorry about this. Im off to work now, ill be back at 5 to carry on with it!

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

can i just also mention, i also found a hole in my flywheel casing, not the wok part, the other bit inbetween that and the block, theres a chunk missing. Didnt see it until i removed the starter, its behind it :(

will need to come out again after avon park :(

Edited by jamesfawcett on 6th Jul, 2004.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

mate! thats well harsh.
at least its trying to kick in, just get it ready for avon park, remember, we got beer to drink, lol

'I swear to use the Boost, The whole Boost'
'And nothing but the Boost..... So help me God'

pump will run if its set to come on with the ignition and is not wired thro the usual oil pressure switch.

turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)

Denis O'Brien.

ah, thats waht i meant. With live to the pump, and all the connections onto the carb, i was wondering if the back pressure made the pump stop when the engine was not running but key was in position 2 on the injection tanks. OK im thinking its a tank problem then! Ill go rewire it again, ive already done it once today though internally instead, i had chopped the suply wire messing with the engine mount!

Im going to go try get noises out of my fuel pump and then try again.
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ill keep the MBC at 0 then and just play with that.

Do you guys get trouble with the standard MG accelerator cable holders touching the MG manifold? Im wondering about putting a carb spacer in between the carb and the manifold, but then clearence for the plenum will be even worse.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

sorry to be thick, but when speedfreaq's post mentiones the boost guage reasing maximum -20 vacumm, this is normal isnt it?

i did actually hear the dump valve at one point whne it cut out :)

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

sorry to post agian but im completely stuck here. The connections are definately right, ive checked everyhting and completely redone the fuel pipes, the feed is definately the right way round on the regulator.

ive been also using this diagram http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=1575

it was the pump that wasnt working earlier, its working now but still wont run. It is really trying and kicks in but just only runs when you hold the starter on and throttle to floor. i havent touched anything tho, its all the same bits that were running in the metro, apart from adition of a MBC and the dump valve.

After i tried for ages, i checked the oil again, it smells of fuel again! the whole lot is in there too! I took the plugs out to check for fuel, then turned over the car, and fuel shot out of the holes, pumping everywhere for about 3 meters.

Could it be overfueling or something? Im completely confused now. Im seriously thinking about going and taking the whole thing apart, head off etc.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

Has your distributor been moved? Once the plugs are wet they won't spark so it could be catching on just 1 or 2 cylinders. If you keep turning the engine over, eventually the cylinders will flood, the carb doesn't know the engine isn't running so just keeps putting fuel in!

Take your plugs out and clean/dry them, make sure the plug leads are in the right place 1-3-4-2 and try again. Don't worry about the fuel - you are getting that! ALL mini's get fuel in the oil when they are not being taken to running temperature so don't panic just yet.

When it turns over, do you get the sound of 4 compressions? it is a rhythmic sound so easy to spot. Had a valve spring break on a Rover 820 once and it was obvious by the sound it was only compressing 3 times in a row then missing one.

Keep trying mate, it will catch!

Speedster turbo under construction

yeah its definately running on all four. OK thats great about the fuel, It doesnt look like it, it just smells really strong of fuel on the dipstick. Ive taken everything off now and changed all the gaskets (carb ones) im going to put my other turbo on and the carb and manifolds back on tomorow and try again.

It seems to sound liek its running fine when it runs, but it only runs for a few seconds. The -20 vacuum is was worries me though. When i put it back togehter tomorow i will do what you say and make sure the plugs are perfectly dry and the ht leads.

Havent removed the distributor, but did remove the cap to drop the engine in, but put it back on in exactly same position :(

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

the minus vacumm is normal on a turbo engine as far as im aware... my cosworth and skyline both ran at about -10/15 at idle....i would recheck every wire,cable and pipe....then reset ignition timing,plug gaps and check rotor arm and then double check everything again...it does sound electrical/ignition

regards mark

Edited by mark4765 on 6th Jul, 2004.

there was no chance the rotor arm got caught and cracked or something silly? I am sure you are capeable of putting the HT leads back in the same place they came from.

Don't worry about the vacuum reading, you will get a vacuum when you start the car as the pistons pull the fuel in with a closed throttle. It should settle at 0 (ish) (maybe a bit of a wobble) once the engine is running at idle.

Speedster turbo under construction

oooh ill check that tomorow sparky, ill swap it with another rotor arm out of another electronic ignition, thanks for that!

Would that explain it only running when the starter motor then? When you hold that on, you can rev it a bit, well you have to put foot on throttle to floor to start it.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

not really anything to do with the starter except the starter is doing the turning instead of the engine. If the rotor arm is damaged it won't be sending the spark at the right time or may be sending just a weak spark which can't get through the fuel-soaked plugs.

Just an idea - I might be way off !

Where are you located? Are you the guy in Keighley nr Bradford? I have to go to Sheffield tomorrow so will be driving past Bradford twice, I could come and have a nosey if you like

Speedster turbo under construction

sounds like mine, when i was trying, but i did not have the fuel prob.
i had to advance my ignition approx 30 degrees past the std markings! so just keep trying

ok excellent, that makes me feel better about the vacuum. The electrical side should be fine, its a new wiring loom in there. Ill recheck it though just incase tomorow.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

oh yeah that would be excellent if you fancy popping in!!! Ill be on wiht it first thing in the morning to get hte turbo back on and everything. Yeah im in keighley! Ill be working on the car 9am - 1pm, then not again until 5pm after work (have to fund the wasted oil costs!!!) Only bad thing is im about 2 miles out of keighley, its quite hard to find, i met iain in keighley as it was easier to explain how to get there, my post code is BD22 9BW

I have a spare electronic ignition to try the rotor from.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

I will try to make it, e-mail me your number so I can call you when I get lost! davefvl@btopenworld.com

My days change by the hour so I may get overrun with work!

Speedster turbo under construction

feebleuk, I thought you had no friends who could drive??

anyway, check your fuel pressure

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