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A bit more research for who exactly?

Alex

AlexF

I have never said my manifolds are the last word in performance. You are correct in saying that the design was produced to fit any mini, left or right hand drive with no need to chop around your car. I dont really see the point you are making here, i wasn't trying to confuse the issue by thinking of different turbos on different manifolds, you can mount a T2 derived unit on the metro manifold with a little work.

DIY turbo mods, sounds very interesting. Again not the thing to messing about with yourself. Each time you take it apart you will not have the corect balance of the rotating assembly, which will give a slight drop in performance and premature wear. I dont see there is much you could achieve "in the Garage", apart from wearing out dremel bits !!

The age of the design of turbo is fairly irrelavent, its what components are put together to make it. The T number dosen't have that much to do with the air mass they can flow. The pressure you are running dosen't really mean that much either. A well built motor could produce the same power at 10 psias a "not so good" one would produce at 15. It's charge air mass thats important. In terms of performance you need to use the smallest lightest components you can that will do the job. This applies to turbo's as well, You use the smallest possible unit that flows the required amount of air efficently you need to produce the required amount of power, it's that simple.

In no way dose a turbo produce power for the engine, it's just a compressor. I dont think i have ever implied that it is a turbo only that produces a great set up, it's obviously the whole package and it's only ever as good as its weekest link. I think ignition is a week link for quite a few.

Buljac how much power do you want

Has anyone ever dabbled with t3 hybrids???

Turbo technics recon i need one of their hybrids to produce a stable 25psi

400 quid tho......

Basic problem with a standard spec turbo is they use 270 Deg horse shoe thrust bearings, these give trouble and wear prematurley when using higher boost pressure. hybrids tend to use 360 deg bearings as a minimum, more flash units use ball races.

my t3 is supposedly a hybrid? got a feeling the guy i brought it from was talking s**t!! wont really be able to confirm it untill it is taken it apart i suppose. be nice if it is, but very unlikely i think....

““A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.”” - Jeremy Clarkson

Mirage i fully understand for imortance of balancing the rotating parts! Living where i do(Northampton) i have alot of contacts the Leading companies such as Turbo Technics,Cosworth and Ilmor, any bright ideas i have i often run it by a real expert in their field to get their opinion on it.

As far as your assumption i go "Dremmeling" turbos in my garage it is not the case. Might have changed the Turbine housing for a different A/R?

Edited by giallofly on 15th Aug, 2004.

what ever giallofly does if fookin works

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Thanks!

Hello Mirage

I am looking for the stedy 150HP

The parts so far I am thinking of:

OMEGA FORGED PISTONS .020 - 73.5mm DISHED
ARP Studs/bolts

I need help to find a complet perfect head for my project
and I am using a std. 1275 ccm engine from an alegro.

If you or any one can help me I will be happy.

thanks again.

.020 over bore will get you to 1293cc

a 73.5mm bore will give 1380cc.

IMO the smaller the bore the better!

alex

AlexF

As Alex said at +20 thats 1293 which is ok.

Arp bolts - Not really required.

I have a few heads arounds, original turbo and non.

Giallofly, people can only make assumptions when a question is asked and they get no answer. So what real expert told you the info on your T3 you were quoting ? I know people from two of the companies you mention, 1 of them i'm a regular customer of, i was having dinner with one of their senior engineering managers a few weeks ago!

Edited by Mirage on 16th Aug, 2004.

Mirage,

Its not a pissing competetion...

JF is a well respected member of this bored and also the owner of the quickest turbo mini at the moment.

Not having a go exactly, just pointing some things out!

Alex

AlexF

Alex if i can reply. I'm not trying to have a competition here, ok its gotten a little silly. However i would like to say that a question was asked about the turbos i offer and the reply given was " The only things i have heard about Mirage is they take ages to produce the goods!!" which is not very constructive and not really a fair representation. I explained the problem i had late last year/ early this with having more sets made. I believe this was also aimed at me "A lot of people fall flat on their face because they believe all they hear, do your own research and reap the results on the advice you choose to take." Is this supposed to mean i don't know what i'm on about ? I've put in thousands of hours and pounds into this and that can easily be wiped out by a few comments like that.



The comment i made initially about the T2/3 debate was correct.

Edited by Mirage on 16th Aug, 2004.

Yeah mirage, high horse springs to mind...

Just calm it down a bit. If JF says he knows these chaps then he does. He is one of the few on this board that have had MANY years of experince on this board and not just running a std unit.

He's more than happy to help people out too and this works in circles.

If those companies are anything like the ones ive worked for then senior managers dont really know alot! not saying this one in particular does or doesnt but you get my point.

This board is pretty relaxed, well very really and we want it to stay that way

fair play mirage, lets keep things like this

Unfortunatly this is a public forum and as such allows the freedom of free speach we are all lunky enough to enjoy.

No one is going to base their decisions on one comment.

Alex

AlexF

Hey guys i wasn't tryin to make out he didn't know good knowledgeable blokes, just that i also know some of the best guys in the business of tuning / building engines.

I also offer help and have been known to tell people not to buy something from me as they could get it cheaper elsewhere, now thats fair !

Point taken about managers, god i've worked with a few who could't tell you the time of day yet alone anything about the products there company makes !! lol

I don't want to fall out with anybody, i'm only here cus i'm into turboing mini's and other things, no hard feelings giallofly ?

got to admit i didn't think i'd have the reaction i have !! lol but like you say it is free speech all round.

It sure is...

and I am sure everone welcomes your input to the site!!

I sure do, only a stupid man thinks they know it all!

Alex

AlexF

Mirage, I run a T2 turbo at the moment, would be interested to know more details on your turbo's could you email me some specs on your turbos?

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Never once during this "bit of banter" have i claimed Mirage does'nt know what he/they are on about!

Yes i did comment that some time ago you did fail to magic up the kits people had placed orders on, i knew that from other turbominis board users, this was hardly trying to knock your reputation, just an honest comment as i know waiting on a certain item to get back on the road can be frustrating. I fully understand it was a knock on effect delaying delivery.

I choose these words carefully as you seem to read into what i write as a personal dig, definately not!

As for the shopping/beast comment i typed that "tongue in cheek" but then you went into hybrid turbo banter, i think you'll find that most people on this site are after an affordable item such as a bog standard R5gt T2 not the all singing all dancing changed A/R cut backblades etc etc model. With that comment i was voicing my opinion as i know from experince that a R5gt T2 (standard) runs out of "puff" before a standard T3 did.

Granted the T2's response is second to none but alot of people get by with the laggy T3, in whatever guise. Put it this way i don't let mine drop alot less than 3000rpm when giving it beans, including the vertual stop hairpin at Mallory.

In a nutshell i was voicing my opinion as i am entitled to do, but you did read between the lines alot!

A far as my contacts go i would'nt publicise that as favours like three angle valve seats being cut for the price of a pint by Mr Mercedes Maclaren have to be respected!

Pint anyone??

Dremmel no! More of a Blue Point high speed air grinder man!!

JF.

kronenbourg please...

Glad i missed all this talk of A/R and compressors... I thought AR was aspect ratio, and a compressor was what you had in air conditioning...

So has all that Bud and Buffallo steak gone to your head DC?

Edited by giallofly on 16th Aug, 2004.

No-one drinks BUD round here!
Things going really well anyway, found a few places with areound 1/2-1 acre of land, pole-barns already built, and for only £65k-£80k!!!
Local drag strip knocks spots off any of the UK ones - even the toilets (sorry, restrooms) are immaculate!!!
I've got plenty of pics, will post them soon...
Going out is strange though - there are bars, but everyone sits down, fook knows how people 'meet' other people (trap in our language) as they just stick to their own groups. Very, very strange.
Still, fuel is cheap, land is aplenty, coppers rarely seen, and did i mention the price of fuel? And they moan about how much it is!!!!

problem is dave, the place is full of yanks

Team Racing