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On 26th May, 2009 giallofly said:
Gold sticker?... WRONG!

Are you getting it confused with motorcycle sports?

If we are talking Just good lids yes get to a motorcyle shop and buy the best you can afford but I am talking Race use in UK.

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I was told motor sport not motor cycle, either way you know which will be of a higher standard and the price will be much the same.

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On 26th May, 2009 Mr Joshua said:


I was told motor sport not motor cycle, either way you know which will be of a higher standard and the price will be much the same.


I am not sure either will be a higher standard than the other. What I do know is that bike helmets offer excelent protection at a fraction of the price of an approved racing helmet, but as off next year won't be allowed in motorsport (cars obviously).

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The request was for opinions on quality lids having had my helmet drop from 20ft onto concrete with my head still in it (major bike accident, hit from behind) I Know how important the capability of a lid is thats whyI now have the carbon version. If you get your lid choice wrong there are no second chances!

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im thinking about getting one of these badboys:



anyone know what rating it is? I cant find it in the blue book?

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On 26th May, 2009 Mr Joshua said:
The request was for opinions on quality lids having had my helmet drop from 20ft onto concrete with my head still in it !


Damned careless old boy if you ask me!!!!!

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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On 26th May, 2009 Mr Joshua said:
The request was for opinions on quality lids having had my helmet drop from 20ft onto concrete with my head still in it !


Damned careless old boy if you ask me!!!!!

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I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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On 26th May, 2009 giallofly said:


They must be Snell approved approved with all the advertising in the motoring press.



If they are legit SNELL approved, which they could well be, anyone who owns one could let us know. Look inside the helmet, underneath the liner, and tell me if it has a SNELL sticker on it. If it is snell approved, it is required to have the holographic sticker. And if it does, what is the registration number on that sticker?


I am not familiar with the ad campaign, or how widely these things are marketed there in the UK. And I certainly wouldn't use that as a yardstick of a products legitimacy. There are lots of commercials on tv and ads in mags for products that end up being not all they are cracked up to be, right?

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On 26th May, 2009 Lance Link said:
On 26th May, 2009 giallofly said:

I am not familiar with the ad campaign, or how widely these things are marketed there in the UK. And I certainly wouldn't use that as a yardstick of a products legitimacy. There are lots of commercials on tv and ads in mags for products that end up being not all they are cracked up to be, right?



Yes but there is a difference between a pill that makes your cock bigger and a helmet that is being built to a standard. I am sure that by now if they were selling it as snell approved and it wasn't there would be some legal action, this is not some back street selling in tesco carpark outfit, although it is not as flash as Bell or Sparco.

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Isnt the problem with bike lids the fact that the liners are not fire proof and something that ive forgotten with the visors


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In the end, pay only the amount you think your brain is worth for a helmet. You guys have no problems dropping 1k GBP for a part for your car, but are willing to buy cut-rate safety items. Seems silly to me. But to each his own.
The fact still remains that these guys claim SNELL approval yet their helmets and brand do not appear on the official SNELL Approvals listing.

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Is a helmet built to a standard better for you head if it is twice the price then? Does the extra money go to some magic that saves your head.

You have fallen for the age old marketing trick of putting up the price of an item to make the buyer believe that they are getting a better item. The reality being that it is exactly the same but in a shiny colour, or in your case carbon.

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On 28th May, 2009 Ben H said:
Is a helmet built to a standard better for you head if it is twice the price then? Does the extra money go to some magic that saves your head.

You have fallen for the age old marketing trick of putting up the price of an item to make the buyer believe that they are getting a better item. The reality being that it is exactly the same but in a shiny colour, or in your case carbon.
Saucer of milk sir! When you have that mass on your head for 2hrs plus your neck is going to be tired especialy as cornering forces will increase the weight felt by your neck and the same applies to bike riders. So bright boy, like I said above the carbon helmet is much much lighter than its plastic cousin which makes it a far more desireable option when your concidering wareing it for 2hrs or more. Plus due to the reduced weight the whip lash moment force is greatly reduced. The number of people I know who have suffered a concusion while wareing lids after heavy impacts is not funny you only have one head put the best lid on it.

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Sorry I am being an arse, but I am gussing that you believe that you mates would have sustained no injuries with a carbon helmet?

Once again we seem to be confusing bike and car here. Particularly as most people on this forum don't race more then a minute, tops 20, for some 11 seconds is a long time. If you want to stop whiplash get Hans.

I can fully see how you can by a 'better' helmet. It may be lighter, more comfortable, better at not steaming up, etc. However, if it is built to and passes a standard test I can't see how you can justify the extra price on safety. This is just my view and obviously you believe different and that is fine.

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Right Mr Joshua.

Please yell me how much lighter Carbonfibre helmets are?

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On 28th May, 2009 giallofly said:
Right Mr Joshua.

Please yell me how much lighter Carbonfibre helmets are?

JF
The difference is eye opening and thats just by holding the 2 in either hand the figure should be on there web page ill have a look

experience guided my choice of helmet not cost. they also guarantee 90db max in the helmet no more ear plugs.

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Sorry, but you are talking utter crap...

Earplugs for what reason?

JF.

EDIT

2 helmets form the same manufacturer.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/Pro...e=SLOAA0400AA1L

and at 100 grams lighter and over a grand more expensive.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/Pro...e=SLOAA0601BC2L

Edited by giallofly on 28th May, 2009.

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On 28th May, 2009 Ben H said:
Sorry I am being an arse, but I am gussing that you believe that you mates would have sustained no injuries with a carbon helmet?

Once again we seem to be confusing bike and car here. Particularly as most people on this forum don't race more then a minute, tops 20, for some 11 seconds is a long time. If you want to stop whiplash get Hans.

I can fully see how you can by a 'better' helmet. It may be lighter, more comfortable, better at not steaming up, etc. However, if it is built to and passes a standard test I can't see how you can justify the extra price on safety. This is just my view and obviously you believe different and that is fine.


Not at all. My brother lost 2 weeks of memory from only a 30mph front wheel wash out he now wares what I ware. Again witht the benifit of hindsight he saw the deficencies of his old helmet. Its the sudden acceleration and deceleration your head and kneck get assaulted with added to the mix roll cages and windows and head and neck injuries can come on real fast. And a helmet is a helmet bike or car styles may vary but the objective of the equipment is still the same. I am not saying buy a bike helmet, but there are aspects that you need to consider when deciding if the helmet put infront of you is a decent one for you or not. I have a rule of thumb when it come to buying safety equipment of any kind. Only look at the price tag once you have decided on the product! Then if at all possible find a cheaper version that retains all the funtions and capabilities of the one you chose.

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Quote Mr Joshua... Then if at all possible find a cheaper version that retains all the funtions and capabilities of the one you chose.

Yes that is why I posted this thread, Snell approved, first, looked at the product and saw quality, second, looks bloody good, third, quick delivery, fourth at the right price, fith.

You are talking bikes, everyone else is cleary not, this a car forum.

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On 28th May, 2009 giallofly said:
Sorry, but you are talking utter crap...

Earplugs for what reason?

JF.

EDIT

2 helmets form the same manufacturer.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/Pro...e=SLOAA0400AA1L

and at 100 grams lighter and over a grand more expensive.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/Pro...e=SLOAA0601BC2L
I paid £750 for mine and in one of my cars you only put the radio on when the engine was off. that got boring after the first long road trip! If your going to be mad enough to pay that much for a lid good luck to you. as for the weight your looking at a different brand. Why do you fit allot callipers whent the cast ones brake just as well why fit carbon sikns when the metal ones are as strong the same goes for all light weight items there is something in the capability of that itenm that ticks the box's you want to tick! at that point price is not an issue unless you can source it cheaper.

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On 28th May, 2009 giallofly said:
Quote Mr Joshua... Then if at all possible find a cheaper version that retains all the funtions and capabilities of the one you chose.

Yes that is why I posted this thread, Snell approved, first, looked at the product and saw quality, second, looks bloody good, third, quick delivery, fourth at the right price, fith.

You are talking bikes, everyone else is cleary not, this a car forum.

JF.
I am talking about the atributes of a helmet application withstanding, features that may be of interest that may have you thinking another way.

Let me say this it is said that insurance companies load up the policies of cars fitted with role cages because they are under the impression the driver is going to tare roun like a maniac. Or maybe in the event of an accident the head trauma that could be caused due to an imact with such a device could see the underwriter shelling out a vast amount of cash.

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On 28th May, 2009 giallofly said:
Right Mr Joshua.

Please yell me how much lighter Carbonfibre helmets are?

JF

from the Shuberth web page
S1 standard 1525g but an independant review had it at 1789g
S1 carbon 1290g

Edited by Mr Joshua on 28th May, 2009.

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FCUK OFF TO A MOTORBIKE FORUM YOU PRICK.

What fooking use a poxy Shuberth helmet in CAR motorsport.

Dickhead.

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