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Site Admin ![]() 1921 Posts Member #: 333 Post Whore Tadley, Hampshire |
12th May, 2009 at 09:27:09pm
On 12th May, 2009 Nic said:
Tut tut tut Does this mean I can claim the Class D title for 2006? LOL |
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![]() 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
12th May, 2009 at 11:20:03pm
TBH id rather have brace bars and the subframe rear bar in place
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784 Posts Member #: 912 Post Whore North Yorkshire |
13th May, 2009 at 07:41:38am
Yeah, I'd cover the boot floor with something. Also just to stop the boot filling with air and acting like an Anker slowing you down.
Edited by Si P on 13th May, 2009. I drill holes in everything..! |
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 07:00:24pm
Right, got the fail sheet here, from today's test (at a different station).
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![]() 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
14th May, 2009 at 07:33:06pm
what work was done on the rear brakes? could it simply be them needing to bed in? |
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
14th May, 2009 at 07:33:11pm
so no 1, al, is saying all beams etc are illegal ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 07:40:06pm
No, mine is a standard subframe, which has been chopped about - the whole rear crossmember has ben hacked off - THAT is the issue. |
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![]() 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
14th May, 2009 at 07:52:21pm
I'd ask the tester for guidance on what he will accept as a solution - we could all come up with a 1000 differing opinions on it and ultimately he is the one between a pass and fail sheet
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 07:58:40pm
a bar is a fix - no issues there
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2370 Posts Member #: 719 Post Whore Horndean - Near Portsmouth |
14th May, 2009 at 08:20:57pm
Ahh thats not too bad!!
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![]() 536 Posts Member #: 5449 Post Whore Melton Mowbray |
14th May, 2009 at 08:24:32pm
That may not be the case, as on some items, like for example coil springs, steering arms etc, they can fail on "strength seriously affected by welding" or something along those lines. On 25th Sep, 2009 mini13 said:
cool, i'll pop over with my tool and some lube, lol 1293 88.8hp 82.2ftlb 17.3 1/4 @ 78 mph Naturally Aspirated (for now) |
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![]() 536 Posts Member #: 5449 Post Whore Melton Mowbray |
14th May, 2009 at 08:28:10pm
I'd have thought that #9 was the tie bar bushes, as the track rod ends are 1. ball joints not pin/bush and 2. they are "outer" not "inner" On 25th Sep, 2009 mini13 said:
cool, i'll pop over with my tool and some lube, lol 1293 88.8hp 82.2ftlb 17.3 1/4 @ 78 mph Naturally Aspirated (for now) |
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Site Admin ![]() 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
14th May, 2009 at 08:46:11pm
Track control arm bush would mean inner lower arm bush to me.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 09:02:52pm
nothing major, bar the welding. Just a few small pain in the arse job's. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 09:31:30pm
On 14th May, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Track control arm bush would mean inner lower arm bush to me. These? http://minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=pb&p...386&title=LOWER ARM BUSH EASIER FIT... |
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![]() 536 Posts Member #: 5449 Post Whore Melton Mowbray |
14th May, 2009 at 10:16:11pm
possibly. the tester hasn't made it very clear lol. On 25th Sep, 2009 mini13 said:
cool, i'll pop over with my tool and some lube, lol 1293 88.8hp 82.2ftlb 17.3 1/4 @ 78 mph Naturally Aspirated (for now) |
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Site Admin ![]() 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
14th May, 2009 at 10:16:58pm
Its perfectly clear. Track control arm is not the same as steering track rod.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 10:22:03pm
Just ordered some ball joint shims, and:
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![]() 3692 Posts Member #: 1833 Formally mini_majic Auckland, New Zealand |
14th May, 2009 at 10:58:21pm
#11 to me would be the little nuts that are on the Track rod (not end) that then get wound up tight to the Track Rod End? or is that what you thought also?
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
14th May, 2009 at 11:03:53pm
On 14th May, 2009 James_H said:
#11 to me would be the little nuts that are on the Track rod (not end) that then get wound up tight to the Track Rod End? or is that what you thought also? should be an easy fix! Yep, thats what I took it to mean too. Cheers |
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![]() 536 Posts Member #: 5449 Post Whore Melton Mowbray |
14th May, 2009 at 11:11:06pm
On 14th May, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Its perfectly clear. Track control arm is not the same as steering track rod. I know that, i wasn't on about the steering arm, i was on about the tie bars. The bottom arm is the bottom arm, so why would he put down track control arm? track control arms are fitted on 4x4's etc. like i said, he hasn't made it clear. it probably is the bottom arm he is on about, but it would have been easier to put down "front lower suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush" On 25th Sep, 2009 mini13 said:
cool, i'll pop over with my tool and some lube, lol 1293 88.8hp 82.2ftlb 17.3 1/4 @ 78 mph Naturally Aspirated (for now) |
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
14th May, 2009 at 11:40:04pm
#5 sounds like it could be the same problem ive got. Check the nut is tight. If it is check the condition of the splines on the rack and column, the ones on my column are fubar but fortunately the rack is ok. Easy fix as long as its not the rack! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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Site Admin ![]() 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
15th May, 2009 at 06:52:42am
The column is softer than the rack, I've seen plenty of columns knackered but never the rack.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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![]() 6753 Posts Member #: 828 Post Whore uranus |
15th May, 2009 at 07:14:45am
On 14th May, 2009 AlexB said:
No, mine is a standard subframe, which has been chopped about - the whole rear crossmember has ben hacked off - THAT is the issue. so the mot man ,who is no structural engineer ,can differentiate between a subby turned into a beam ,and an ally beam and a steel beam , ,and decide which one is stronger and which one is dangerous ? ,when it may be the cut down sub with a few extra webs is the strongest of the lot hmm .. i woder how many people have got a cut down subby beam through an mot ? Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM |
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Site Admin 6295 Posts Member #: 1 The boring bloke who runs this place. Berkshire |
15th May, 2009 at 09:12:35am
On 15th May, 2009 robert said:
On 14th May, 2009 AlexB said:
No, mine is a standard subframe, which has been chopped about - the whole rear crossmember has ben hacked off - THAT is the issue. so the mot man ,who is no structural engineer ,can differentiate between a subby turned into a beam ,and an ally beam and a steel beam , ,and decide which one is stronger and which one is dangerous ? ,when it may be the cut down sub with a few extra webs is the strongest of the lot hmm .. i woder how many people have got a cut down subby beam through an mot ? Who knows, but both the MOT stations the car has been to this week failed it on that. Just spoken to them, if I weld in a bar, it'll pass. No problem. Perhaps they're just covering their backs more these days? |
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