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 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:24:02pm
On 12th Nov, 2009 tim.limbrick@hotmail.co.uk said:
no shit tha mini turbo in the mag is wank i hate the hole thing , i feel like saying the hole point of having a turbo is to make the engine have a compressible amount of air in the cylinder instead of just what the piston can pull in in a vacuum so why would you bother putting a turbo engine in then start restricting the air with those bends and adding extra pipe witch will just make the lag worse lol and it also makes the air turbulent on those bends witch will effect the way it starts to burn in the cylinder but yea having a clutch mounted turbo is all well if you enjoy lag, you need to think about retarding the ignition to compensate for the extra space you are creating with the longer manifold plus here are a few things you may wona look at before you start putting that horribly welded thing on your engine exhaust pulse; flow in pipes; raynold number; boundry layers; computational fluid dynamics; incompressible fluid flow; compressible fluid flow; exhaust lengths : all these things need to be taken into account before you will get any power out of it you may wona look at acoustics to :) You are obviously an idealist. Reality is that you can only use parts you can make yourself, with the skills you have available within your price range. Apply all the science you want, you then have to fit it in the mini engine bay. Don't knock it until you have done something better yourself. Edit: The term is Reynolds Number. Also boundary layers and when was air incompressible? Edited by Paul S on 12th Nov, 2009. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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 2054 Posts Member #: 452 Post Whore Chester, UK |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:24:04pm
i was thinking just BREATHHHH |
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 6549 Posts Member #: 1149 #1 Basshunter Fan Force Racing ICT Dept Manager Miglia Turbo Am frum Yokshyer tha noes! |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:35:38pm
I think itll work, fuck all that science shit! 1/4 Mile 14.3secs 96Mph Terminal 10psi of boost.
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 9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:42:14pm
I don't see any lag in that system, very short IC install, the bends are shit though. I think it would be noticable if you changed them. My IC pipes are twice that length and I have no noticacle lag.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:42:28pm
ok haha i have tried it actually |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:49:31pm
On 12th Nov, 2009 tim.limbrick@hotmail.co.uk said:
ok haha i have tried it actually  plus this is tru fluid is not compressible but unfortunately for you its a term for something else you obviously don't understand so don't knock it till you've tried it.
fucking hell was only trying to lend a hand. Ok mister 7 posts, explain it to me. By the way, I'm a Hydrodynamicist by profession. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:52:26pm
explain what ?
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9258 Posts Member #: 123 Post Whore Betwix Harrogate and York |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:56:11pm
Chill Tim. You obviously have some knowledge of the subject and can add to the forum. The problem is your post came across as a little patronising and 'look what I know and you don't'.
Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph
On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:
the design shows a distinct lack of imagination, talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry. |
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 1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:58:23pm
On 12th Nov, 2009 tim.limbrick@hotmail.co.uk said:
ok haha i have tried it actually plus this is tru fluid is not compressible but unfortunately for you its a term for something else you obviously don't understand so don't knock it till you've tried it.
fucking hell was only trying to lend a hand. Well, I'm actually studying fluid dynamics reight now. I'm doing a module as part of my degree which includes theoretical and computational fluid dynamics. Fluid can be comressible. I don't think the internal combustion engine would be too sucessful if all fluids were incompressible. I imagine an incompressible fluid evenly distributed at a ratio of 14.7:1 within a compressible fluid would still be considered compressible. Where does incompressible flow come into flow within manifolds and induction pipework? P.S Given the fact that you cannot spell the name of one of the most significant names and parameters in fluid dynamics I fear that you don't understand it either. P.P.S I am crap at fluid dynamics as my recent test and assignment results will prove but you don't appear to be much hotter at the subject than somebody who breezes through a text book P.P.P.S your spelling and grammar pisses me off On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse  On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
12th Nov, 2009 at 02:58:33pm
Welcome to TM Tim, I'm sure you'll get on fine here On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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2054 Posts Member #: 452 Post Whore Chester, UK |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:02:53pm
this thread just became my favourite :) Edited by t@z on 12th Nov, 2009. |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:06:33pm
i did not mean for it to come across like that and non of its bull iv been studying the flow of gas, air and fluids in pipes for a year now and will be presenting this after Christmas as a metro turbo manifold application, i find the way you change the characteristics of an engine just with the manifold and the flow interesting and the more iv gone into it iv actually enjoyed it. i built my mini turbo about a year ago and ts a on going project as i cant do it all the time as its at my mothers house in the north. i am a motor sport engineer as profession ad i do respect other peoples ideas i am just trying to lend a hand as i am bord sat on my arse right now and thort id come on here and have a look . |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:10:19pm
oh and fuck you i am dyslexic and i do try to spell better and have done my hole life and i am sorry i was born like that but i cant do anything about now can i |
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1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:14:17pm
You can spell check On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:18:48pm
i do but sometimes some slip the net, uno |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:22:36pm
sorry this aint some kind of spelling competition is it ?
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 10022 Posts Member #: 1456 Mongo Barnsley, South Flatcapshire |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:23:58pm
Chill out buddy. Stressing and effing at the regulars won't get you anywhere. If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of. |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:28:53pm
im chilling don't worry |
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Site Admin  15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:30:43pm
You need to wind your neck in buddy.
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1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:31:40pm
So are you going to elaborate on your initial post? Was your study experimental, computational or both? How did you determine the free stream velocity to find the boundary layer? Surely such high velocity fluid flowing in such a narrow region has no area where the velocity equals 99% of the free stream velocity.
Edited by GaryOS on 12th Nov, 2009. On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:44:02pm
On 12th Nov, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Paul S for example probably knows more about fluid dynamics than the rest of us ever will I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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2054 Posts Member #: 452 Post Whore Chester, UK |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:44:29pm
On 12th Nov, 2009 GaryOS said:
So are you going to elaborate on your initial post? Was your study experimental, computational or both? How did you determine the free stream velocity to find the boundary layer? Surely such high velocity fluid flowing in such a narrow region has no area where the velocity equals 99% of the free stream velocity. What assumptions did you make to simplify the Navier-Stokes equations? Where is imcompressible flow applicable? How did you deremine the inertial and viscous forces of the Reynold's number? Did you have to define it at a specific rpm, boost and egt? Enlighten me 
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1424 Posts Member #: 2810 Formally spanner181187 Dublin, Ireland |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:46:38pm
On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
On 12th Nov, 2009 Tom Fenton said:
Paul S for example probably knows more about fluid dynamics than the rest of us ever will I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse I am honoured that you would even consider such a possibility 
On 12th Nov, 2009 Paul S said:
I think Gary OS has taken over my role as the forum smart arse On 30th Apr, 2010 Rod S said:
Gary's description is best |
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28 Posts Member #: 7112 Member surrey |
12th Nov, 2009 at 03:46:46pm
whatever i cant even b arsed to talk on here any more its actually sad your all having a go at me and all i was sayin is that i don't like the way that car in the mag was set out and trying to lend a hand but it seams that iv brought out a much greater hand out of the woodwork so here u go t@z have your fun getting some answers from this guy
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12th Nov, 2009 at 03:57:50pm
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