cinquecento rads
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Mines tight, but i have not managed to overheat, yet.

cool , thanks for the info peeps, just ordered mine on ebay , what header tanks are you using , i got a little round one of ebay but its too big really , how does the plumbing work on these rads with a standard water pump ? :)

thanks

just follow the diagram on the first page, its good, ive bought a mkII fiesta header but looks shit im gonna build my own i think

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Has anyone noticed an increase in performace after installing one?

I don't have mine installed yet but I expect that in terms of cooling performance a significant improvement will be seen over a side mount setup. In terms of actual "go,go faster" performance I would say very little will be gained. (apart from the associated benefits of consistent engine temps)

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

"cooling performance" over standard, it cant be worse ,
it just keeps the engine cool so the turbo can give more performance

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I got an ebay special header, ive got the bottom pipe going to the rad takeoff and one of the top ones going to the top hose. This works well and bleeds itself, i am planning on running from the heater take off, through the turbo and back to the spare on the header.

right has anyone got a front mount cinq rad in a steel roundnose, with standard starter, alternator and dizzy
because if you have i wanna see pics

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Re the comments earlier in the thread about one model being slightly bigger, Ive just researched it and it "seems" it doesn't matter whether it's a cinquecento or a seicento, but the year....

up to 99ish 240mm tall core and 2000ish onwards a 285mm tall core

Add a bit for the frame and the later (presumably better) one starts to become a bit tight.

See here.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIAT-CINQUECENTO-99-...=item414f81a4d7

Anyway, I've ordered the taller one.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

What size fan is that?

Well, i't not as simple as it seems.....



Metro Mk1, pre 99 Fiat, and post 2000 Fiat.

There is, apparently, an intermediate with the Fiat, 99-2000 but it appears to be smaller than all the others and hard to find so I'll ignore it.

Metro, conventional design (thin rectangular water tubes soldered into metal endplate, crimped on plastic header with coarse spaced fins). This one tubes and fins are copper. However this one has the fan switch in from the back, so fouls the alternator in a Mini. Gavin's photo in another thread shows the switch is normally in from the end. Overall, very thin core but I believe they are made in two different thicknesses - if so, this must be the thin one....

Early and most common Fiat, strange design..... no frame and large circular water tubes going into composite aluminium/platic tubeplates and plastic headers crimped on. Lots and lots of very thin, closely spaced fins. massive surface area but potentially very restrictive to airflow. Without the frame, the fins are easily damaged. However, this may be down to the manufacturer of this particular one altering the original design (made in China on the box), other photos seem to show a frame that is lacking on this particular one. Fan switch in from end, threaded connection. Core is much thicker than the Metro one.

Later Fiat, not so much bigger, probabaly a lot less area as it has a frame and is back to conventional construction, but tubes/fins in aluminium. Slightly thicker than Metro, but a lot thinner than the previous Fiat version. NO fan switch port/hole etc.... fan must be controlled by engine ECU as I can't find one listed in any of the usual parts catalogues.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

I've got one that has the dimensions of the middle one and the construction of the one on the right, but with a fan switch take of. The design/construction must be down to individual manufacturer. John has the one in the middle and it seems a little flimsy to me.

Anyway... fans. Is one enough or would having 2 be beneficial? I've got an 8" fan for mine which sits nicely inside my unmolested clubman steel front. I think I can get two in with out any mods to the inside of the valance. Do you think it's worth the money/weight/hassle?

i have the centre one, fit quite nicely in the front of the clubby, not plumbed in yet but i will be using it with only 1 fan,
the fan should only be need when im not moving, anything over 20mph and i think it should be good

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Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

Guys, that funny lump on the end opposite the outlets. Can it be cut off, got my eye on this radiator, but with an oil cooler stuffed in front too, the lump will need to go to make it fit.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-CINQUECENTO...=item27c5f1a664

Cheers

The funny lump
Yeah its just stuck on the the end tank

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Lovely job, I'll get one ordered. Can't go wrong for 30 quid delivered (I hope)

Abit of a long shot but has anyone got any pics of one of these vs a metro rad? I need to replace the rad on my r100 have been thing about using one of these, but not sure if it would cope with the k-series.

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I was hoping to use a mk2 metro radiator on my car, but they seem quite expensive and have less capacity compared to these cinq ones. I say go for it.

My current rad died from abit of metal going through it and took the hg with it as it lost coolent and its a k series haha

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My side rad got killed by getting thumped by the electric fan between the inner wing the other day, hence the search for a decent side mount!

Edited by minimole23 on 20th Apr, 2013.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-CINQUECENTO...=item3f226de1fc

This one has numerous tubes. I did consider that when I saw the first one. plenty of surface area here.

You can't see the tubes in a picture. The flat bits are dividers. The tubes sit inside the fins. You need to look into the inlet to see what I'm on about.

Might just keep my eye open next time I'm passing a scrap yard then and get a genuine one.

The MPI one is holding out for the minute, but when another 100hp is throw at it, it will complain!