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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
22nd Sep, 2010 at 09:52:54pm
As I understand it, you can use the siamese code to overcome the mixture balance across cylinders, but the time to get the fuel into the right cylinder is very small, hence why bigger than usual injector/s are used. Is it not that the scatter timing will increase the time period to actualy get the fuel into the desired cylinders? On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 06:04:29pm
The reason for considering this cam is just because it may increase the VE of the engine at the top end.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 06:10:01pm
I think its due to a little of both Paul,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 07:28:34pm
On 23rd Sep, 2010 Joe C said:
Suposedly If you have a BIG turbo/turbine and your TIP/Boost are getting close to Parity then a narrow LCA is the way to go. :/ But then if you correctly size the turbo for the useable rev range, TIP will exceed boost and you benefit from low overlap, but what about the earlier opening exhaust valve? Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 07:50:40pm
From what I have seen, the 8 thou that will adjusted out just affects where on the tappet ramp the valve starts moving, this 8 degree could equate to 15-20 degrees change in the seat timing, and probably 10% change in the overlap "area"
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 08:03:31pm
What I'm thinking is that Wills tappet adjustment actually made the exhaust valve open later which is contrary to the affects of increasing the LCA so I'm a little confused. Maybe it's more to do with the 266 cam specs. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 08:10:21pm
It make the exh open later, but it also shuts earlier, so its not really contarary to increasig LCA,
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 08:13:01pm
So, we can conclude that it is mainly about overlap above all else.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 08:18:59pm
Another fact to consider here is that the Phase 2 has an LCA of 110 degrees. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 08:26:40pm
pmsl
On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 08:49:31pm
On 23rd Sep, 2010 Joe C said:
pmsl You have my Phase 2 Plot to look at don't you? Yes, but it also matches up with the published data. On 23rd Sep, 2010 Joe C said:
there is Nic's cam to consider too ![]() Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 9812 Posts Member #: 332 Resident Cylinder Head Modifier Mitsi Evo 7, 911, Cossie. & all the chavs ...... won no problem |
23rd Sep, 2010 at 09:51:02pm
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![]() 1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
24th Sep, 2010 at 07:19:48am
Paul
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
30th Sep, 2010 at 09:23:51am
On 24th Sep, 2010 fab said:
Paul isn't your ngine a 998? Then anything above 250 ° inlet will not be correct duration wise. Then I 've mesured an mpi camshaft whish should be just in your ballpark...reliable, cheap, last grind tech.. Can you share the MPi cam data? Only that is the second time you've mentioned it in a week ![]() Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
30th Sep, 2010 at 09:42:39am
I have one throwing round if you want one to play with. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it ![]() |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
30th Sep, 2010 at 11:06:21am
I've found the data for an MPi cam on the ACDodd Forum.
Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
30th Sep, 2010 at 04:16:21pm
Your opinion thru ...
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
30th Sep, 2010 at 05:10:33pm
I can throw it in the back of the van if you want to use it for a while, get it of John at the RR day. That's if I can remember where I put it... On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it ![]() |
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![]() 1497 Posts Member #: 100 Parisien Turbo Expert Paris\' suburb |
30th Sep, 2010 at 05:26:11pm
.............. choking
On 30th Sep, 2010 apbellamy said:
I can throw it in the back of ........... I put it... |
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![]() 8604 Posts Member #: 573 Formerly Axel Podland |
30th Sep, 2010 at 05:30:58pm
On 30th Sep, 2010 fab said:
.............. choking On 30th Sep, 2010 apbellamy said: I can throw it in the back of ........... I put it... Hardly gives me confidence in using it ![]() Send it down Andy and I'll plot it out. Maybe the profile does a little more than the timing figures suggest. Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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![]() 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
30th Sep, 2010 at 05:47:44pm
It's in the side of the van's spare wheel well. On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it ![]() |
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