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97 Posts Member #: 9061 Advanced Member Louth |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:30:15pm
On 5th Nov, 2010 Pauly said:
If you passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 you're limited to vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes maximum authorised mass towing a trailer up to 750kgs, or a vehicle and trailer combination up to 3.5 tonnes MAM providing the MAM of the trailer doesn't exceed the unladen mass of the towing vehicle.
It says a trailer weighing 750kg, but it doesn't say if thats gross or tare weight. If the trailer weighs 750kg empty then thats going to throw it over the gross weight of car and trailer when loaded? I agree with Tom and others that if your car and trailer together weigh just under 3.5 tonne you should be ok. well you are reading that different to me i see what you are saying but i know i wouldnt tow anything above 750kg because that is the what i think it means and if this is true when my bro rang the dvla to see if he needed to take a test to tow a small caravan he was told wrong because they said he needed to |
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97 Posts Member #: 9061 Advanced Member Louth |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:36:02pm
On 5th Nov, 2010 Tom Fenton said:
What about the word "OR"? The 750kg is for an unbraked trailer. The "OR" and text after it refers to towing up to 3.5t train weight. You go and google to your hearts content, I do not need google to know you are talking rubbish and clearly do not understand the towing regs. i dont need to google i know what i found out when i was looking and what the dvla said i only googled to try to help out the OP not make a big mistake by towing too much weight and getting his car and trailer taken off them |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:39:37pm
Reading all the responses It just shows how much confusion all the red tape causes and how many different ways the guidance can be interpreted. Its a load of crap! On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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97 Posts Member #: 9061 Advanced Member Louth |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:41:32pm
On 5th Nov, 2010 minimole23 said:
Reading all the responses It just shows how much confusion all the red tape causes and how many different ways the guidance can be interpreted. Its a load of crap! if i was you i would ring the dvla and get them to tell you what is correct and also get them to send it to you in writing so then atleast you can be certain because we are never going to come to a decision in here by the looks of it |
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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:44:09pm
The 750kg is a maximum for an un braked trailer.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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4309 Posts Member #: 1321 Post Whore Wiltshire |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:45:25pm
On 5th Nov, 2010 Dolly said:
On 5th Nov, 2010 minimole23 said:
Reading all the responses It just shows how much confusion all the red tape causes and how many different ways the guidance can be interpreted. Its a load of crap! if i was you i would ring the dvla and get them to tell you what is correct and also get them to send it to you in writing so then atleast you can be certain because we are never going to come to a decision in here by the looks of it I phoned them earlier and they said it was ok, but I phoned them last year and they said it wasn't. thats why I'm trying to draw a line under it. I'll try to get it in writing, but they'll probably send me the guidance which is once agian open to interpretation. On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding |
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97 Posts Member #: 9061 Advanced Member Louth |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:53:39pm
if they just send you the guidance go down to your local police station and get them to talk the guidlines through with you because you dont understand them and dont want to get caught and try to get it in writing again if they will just when you get a deffinate answer get it in writing so you have your proof that is what you was told by an officer/dvla |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
5th Nov, 2010 at 10:55:25pm
Look at it this way, if it looks right, it probibly is. what I mean is, if you have a Subaru Legacy towing a large trailer with another Legacy on the trailer, it does not look right, and you will likely get pulled. same as if the trailer nose is pointing at the ground thereby pushing the cars nose to the sky. It doesnt look right and you will get pulled.
Edited by Sprocket on 5th Nov, 2010. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
5th Nov, 2010 at 11:01:04pm
this exploded abit lol Yes i moved to the darkside |
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 716 Posts Member #: 9077 Post Whore Cheshire |
6th Nov, 2010 at 12:11:21am
Sprocket, thank you for explaining everything, made it much easier for me to understand. The way DVLA have described it leaves it very open to interpretation I think as seen on here.
On 2nd Nov, 2010 wil_h said:
I think it's probably a given that all people who own pink cars like it up the Gary. On 14th Jan, 2011 rubicon said:
please dont put a batty kit on it, il have to by internet law, Report you to barry boys.com |
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
6th Nov, 2010 at 01:08:41am
the rules are quite clearly set out imo
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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 2909 Posts Member #: 83 Post Whore Glasgow, Scotland |
6th Nov, 2010 at 09:16:31am
wats the script then with a mini on a trailer, would the minis actual weight (in toms example with the DON) or the minis fully laiden weight be taken into account? i like driving to events, but after last year's avon, i'd have killed for a trailer! turbo 16v k-series 11.9@118.9 :)
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 6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
6th Nov, 2010 at 09:18:36am
it will be the actual weight on the trailer at the time |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
6th Nov, 2010 at 09:18:57am
You can argue the point and they will take your vehicles to the weigh bridge = ball ache, and major inconvenience. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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6729 Posts Member #: 618 Post Whore Glasgow |
6th Nov, 2010 at 09:27:09am
I have been taken to the weighbridge once in the long and distant past...........your right it was a ball ache as we had just finished a 14 hr shift and all we wanted to do was get home! |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
6th Nov, 2010 at 09:51:31am
I hve been looking at the Brian James Micro Max trailers. Just the right size for towing and storage. But not much use for anything else other than a Mini sized car On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 4360 Posts Member #: 1459 En-suite user Braintree, Essex |
6th Nov, 2010 at 02:25:39pm
Not jumping on this post, but have trailers got have a plate by law showing its gross?
On 19th Jan, 2010 wil_h said:
I would start the furthest place from the finish. On 24th Mar, 2012 apbellamy said:
I feel all special knowing that I've given your mum my wood. Been neglecting Turbo'd 'A' series.............. |
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250 Posts Member #: 1615 Senior Member Ferndown, Dorset |
6th Nov, 2010 at 06:21:48pm
On 5th Nov, 2010 Tom Fenton said:
On 5th Nov, 2010 nick1275 said:
my understanding is the trailer and load cant weigh more than 750 kg, the trailer cant be braked, the weight of the trailer cant exeed the weight of the tow vehicle and the total weight of everything cant weigh more than 3.5 tons To put it bluntly you are wrong, as the guys say above, you can tow a trailer of plated weight up to the towing weight of the tow car, so long as the plated weight of the trailer plus the towing weight of the car added up is less than 3.5 t. In practical terms this means with a decent size tow car you are ok up to about 900kg of car on a trailer, so the majority if small hatches will be ok. im looking at changing my daily drive in 12 months or so so i shall bear this in mind, ive got access to a couple of car trailers so i mite now do a few more trackdays in the mini On 1st Mar, 2009 MikeRace said:
Hmmm weberyyy On 21st Apr, 2009 madcatminis said:
I hope she's got knickers on or you'll have a funny runny mark on your bonnet. Quite like what a snail leaves behind. |
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 16540 Posts Member #: 4241 King Gaycharger, butt plug dealer, Sheldon Cooper and a BAC but generally a niceish fella if you dont mind a northerner Rotherham, South Yorkshire |
6th Nov, 2010 at 06:55:22pm
Trailering the car to a track day is cheating. Driving it there and back just adds to the excitement lol On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it 
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9502 Posts Member #: 1023 Post Whore Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
7th Nov, 2010 at 12:18:34am
On 6th Nov, 2010 apbellamy said:
Trailering the car to a track day is cheating. Driving it there and back just adds to the excitement lol driving it there and back means you cant rag it as hard as you could, maybe with the exception of Tom who blows it up and drives it home anyway 
Yes i moved to the darkside |
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4314 Posts Member #: 700 Formerly British Open Classic The West Country |
7th Nov, 2010 at 08:58:06am
On 5th Nov, 2010 minimole23 said:
my mate got 8 tickets in one go the other week due to trailer related offences, so wanted to be clear on it all. I'm not confident that the police actually know the law, given that there have been more new laws in the last 10 years than the previous 100 it's neigh on in possible for them to keep up, especially when it's on a simple case of you can or can't tow a trailer, as such I keep a printout of the above mentioned page in my glove box. Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:
Nothing is impossible if you are an Engineer |
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Site Admin  9407 Posts Member #: 58 455bhp per ton 12 sec 1/4 mile road legal mini Sunny Bridgend, South Wales |
7th Nov, 2010 at 10:27:24am
Tom is correct,
On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:
I think the welsh one has it right! 1st to provide running proof of turbo twinkie in a car and first to run a 1/4 in one!! Is your data backed up?? one extra month free for all Turbo minis members, PM me for detials |
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716 Posts Member #: 9077 Post Whore Cheshire |
7th Nov, 2010 at 11:21:36am
That last link would have been helpful if they listed my car On 2nd Nov, 2010 wil_h said:
I think it's probably a given that all people who own pink cars like it up the Gary. On 14th Jan, 2011 rubicon said:
please dont put a batty kit on it, il have to by internet law, Report you to barry boys.com |
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 136 Posts Member #: 5193 Advanced Member Dunstable |
7th Nov, 2010 at 11:27:56am
On 7th Nov, 2010 Mini_the_minx said:
I don't see why the max towing weight is so low taking into account the power of the car. Its not the power its the nose weight of the car |
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 8215 Posts Member #: 90 Post Whore Somewhere around Swindon |
7th Nov, 2010 at 11:52:51am
5Ltrs of unleaded and a match will sort out that problem
On 7th Nov, 2010 Mini_the_minx said:
That last link would have been helpful if they listed my car
I was looking it up elsewhere. It's an MG ZR160 and this is what I got Gross Vehicle Weight 1550 Luggage Capacity (Seats Up)304 Max. Towing Weight - Braked 1000 Max. Towing Weight - Unbraked 500 Minimum Kerbweight 1145 No. of Seats 5 Turning Circle - Kerb to Kerb 11.64 I don't see why the max towing weight is so low taking into account the power of the car. Crystal Sound Audio said:
Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead ! "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."-Douglas Adams |
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