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I'm all for bending the rules, but that really isn't what it says.

What it says is that you must use the engine as fitted during production. This engine must be identifiable from the outside. i.e. someone must be able to identify it as such externally.

If you had an alloy copy, then someone may be able to accidentally idntify it as an iron block A-series, but that would not make it eligable.

The fact that you must use the production engine is clarified in another section earlier on.

Feel free to wast your money fitting such an engine to go hillclimbing with (although I know no-one is going to, you're just making a point, and the point is that the Blue Book is a bit shit and very open to interpratation; but writing rules aint easy)

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

What about when sourcing a good block becomes difficult, this is the main advantage.

I do agree with you wil.

What are your thoughts on one bloke in my championship. He is developing an engine where the inside of an iron block has been removed and he is building new internals. Basically he is just using the casting as a disguise. Is that within the rules?

Not sure I agree with you either gavin. Its going to be a long time untill we run out of usable blocks.

Even then we can liner them back.

And when all that hasbeen done, surly someone will produce a new cast block rather than alloy to keep the price down?

Chris

Well there are rumours that S blocks are going to be recast, so if there is a need otheres will too.

Well the rules do say you can do what you want internally iirc. This is ment to mean fit posh bits not sure it means put another engine inside it.

To be honest the head is what makes power, the crank et'c just needs to cope with it. I'm happy that you can build a pretty resilliant A-series, so what's the point in putting another engine inside the a-series?

Just to further think about the theory of using the A-series as a cover. Say you managed to get a Hyabusa engine in there that made 200 bhp, well that would be at 12k (I guess). Now that's nearly twice what I rev to and I have a 4.1 diff; what unavailable diff will be needed to make use of the power. Maybe useful on a dragstrip or circuit, but on a hill you'd just not have the right gears.

Well I'm sure it's all possible, but for cost vs advantage it's a non-starter for me. whether it's eligable is one for the MSA.

Edited by wil_h on 19th Nov, 2010.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

Who's re-casting the S-blocks out of interest Wil?

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

I'm sorry, I am not trying to be rude, just stating the facts in an efficient manner. As it has now been elaborated on above I stand by my original comment.

I'll get the blue book out later and pull out the relevant sections.

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Edited post as they are only rumours that I have heard so don't get your hopes up.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

been busy machining a big slab of alloy

busy racing Noosa Hill climb

Busy building turbo BMW twinkys for everyone else but myself

Going surfing at Byron all next week

then Mt Cotton hill climb the weekend after that

nothing wrong with running an alloy , 5-main block in a mini for "Club level" racing here in Aust, just not in the Historic category where most of the group-N minis race

& mine (if it ever gets finished) will look absolutely nothing like a mini block

My thoughts were not just for lighter block,,, nor just for the stronger 5-main brgs,,, not just for the lower center of gravity,,, not just for much more capacity but also for the Way better breathing cyl head ,,, & far greater valve control,,,

obviously not for everyone,,, & obviously costing a big bundle,,, & obviously some people will ask "why"

who really cares why tho? it`s not your time or money,,, you don`t have to buy one if you don`t want to,,, i may only end up doing one anyways,,,(ok maybe 2)

KAD do good work, they make great stuff & i hope theirs works a treat, i heard about their years ago & wondered if it would ever see day light,,, hope it`s a beauty , i really do

But it wouldn`t be very cool if everyones mini on the whole planet was the same hey?

if that were the case then i`d race my kombi instead (again)

"Decent" mini gearboxes & gear-cases are comming. a little birdy whispered in my ear & then another little birdy said similar things about another,,, & so are the daze of our lives

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