ReshellIng into another shell. Is it legal?
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Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

erm ok where should it be stamped then?

They were stamped in the bonnet gutter on the scuttle panel I think ( been a while, may be wrong).

one day boost will be mine!

As above, towards the driver side end of the channel.

But only from about 83-84 onwards and it's a panel that is often replaced.

Schrödinger's cat - so which one am I ???

That's a really odd mix of stuff. It's plainly not a reshelled mk1, just a Mk5 with a mk1 V5C. Looking at some bits it looks even newer than '88.

As I said before. Ask if he still has the original V5C and just change it back.

I wouldn't be happy owning it with a '64 V5. The original V5 would be best, but any late '80s V5 would be better, even if it's no less wrong.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

don't the brackets on the bulkhead make it an early injection shell?

anyhow, I can't see anything on the car that relates to a 64 car if it has been re-shelled.

If your interested give him £50 scratch the paint back somewhere and your find the original colour or primer... job done...

Like someone said before 90% of minis that are tax exempt aren't original.

Cheers chap I think I will look else where but all useful info none the less

Would even say thats an spi/carb auto mk6 shell, bracket with relays on the bulkhead and spi engine with spi only oil pipe on the front!

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On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet ?

my shell has no numbers stamped into it.

Is it not up to the powers that be to prove your car is illegal rather than you having to prove it is legal?????

one day boost will be mine!

How hard would it be to prove that isn't a mk1, really.

I think anyone with eyes knows that aint a mk1. I just meant in general as other people have mentioned there cars etc. Also although it is blatantly alot newer than 88, doesnt mean the shell was not purchased from rover, after all no one has actually asked the seller, people have just presumed its been done dodgy. Could of been a typo and he meant 98 shell......

Edited by wez on 11th Feb, 2011.

one day boost will be mine!

When it comes right down to it, anyone who knows minis knows that this is not an early mini, so whats the satisfaction in owning it - just evading road tax I guess.

I think that is a bit harsh yes it's been reshelled, but it's a lot of mini for the money. Looks solid and has a decent amount of upgrades.

However it's no resto example that's for sure. But if your want it for a fun weekend warrior then it's fine

But at the end of the day it actually looks illegal and with something as blatant as that I think it would be you that would need to prove that it was what it was, not the other way around.

I can't actually see anything mk1 about that car.

The front arches look sportspack-ish or it might just be with the trim making it look that way.

Insurers could use question mark over the identity to refuse a claim, DVLA could bring it in for a VIC test and remove the identity and it would have to IVA'd it to get it back on the road again (hello Q plates).

Expensive - have to pay for IVA and then road tax all on a car that just became worth less.

If the owner doesn't provide the right answers when the obvious questions are asked about the re-shelling then better to walk away.

Don't be a mug.

Whats peoples opinions on this now days? Cos theres TONS of minis out there (and on hear tbh) and in one of my garages too AND in the mags, i have never heard of anyone getting caught/been in trouble/had to prove anything

I just feel sorry for the people who are buying a ringer and don't know the difference between a mk1 shell and a late 80s. It's those kind that bother me. There was a mini with a tax exempt plate on eBay last week described as 'exact sportspack replica' yeah right! Sometimes shells are too far gone but at least replace it with one a similar age!

They don't die, they just get faster!

My thoughts are always:

1) Why not just use the reg of the new shell?
2) If not why are you reshelling?
3) If you are changing, say, a no-history-run-of-the-mill mk5 shell to a similar mk5 shell as it's less work than rebuilding the one you have, then fine, no one will know, or care.
4) If you are rebuilding a piece of paper for historical (and likely monetary gain) that is clear fraud.

There is obviously similarity between 3 and 4, but with 3 you're not trying to pass something off as something it's not, it's not unsafe and it saves a mini (possibly).

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

I've kept my logbook as it's my first car, just got another shell with the age a year newer and got rid of the old one with the new logbook, no harm done. It was only because it was my first car that I did that, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.

Number 1 is mostly for the tax exemption? Surely older minis (and other models of cars) are more desirable too and valuable too. I still see a few adverts on ebay that are clearly people just selling logbooks!

They don't die, they just get faster!

Doing a ringer to trick someone or make money is wrong in my eyes yes, especially if the buyer is someone who doesnt know difference. But im talking about the ones out there that arent trying to hide anything they clearly state that its not its original shell so not for a purist, or on the other hand where someone is building a new project.. has a bare shell with no i.d whatsoever so when finding a logbook to use most people would go for choosing the one that gets you out of a few things mot wise and free road tax?

Edited by D4VE on 5th Oct, 2014.

That's my point really. People are not just reshelling because their shell in knackered, they are reshelling logbooks to make a fast buck. This is not acceptable, but I accept it happens. Where it is really unacceptable is when a historic car of significant value is rebuilt.

Edited by wil_h on 5th Oct, 2014.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph

Things like this are really naughty too! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/morris-mini-1000...=item486fbd002c

They don't die, they just get faster!