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i was thinking same as andy, best way is to take it apart and see what your dealing with. You could only make it worse but trying other oil etc etc


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On 26th Aug, 2011 eden7842 said:


3: start up and pray for oil pressure, if no, quit and rebuild!

sound like a plan?


If you like fucking crap plans it sounds like a plan.

Personally I would get the plate off the back of the gearbox that goes to the pick up pipe (only undo 1 bolt fully, leave the other in and spin plate round).

Then by whatever method clean as much of that gunk as you can out of the pick up.

Then get the oil relief valve cover off and again clean gunk out.

What you are basically trying to achieve is to get the oil pump free of gunge.

You will need plenty of solvent/brake cleaner/paraffin. Pour it through the rocker cover to try and flush out some shite from the box.

If you can get it clean feed fresh clean oil down the relief and pick up pipe and reassemble. Then try again for oil pressure.

DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT let it run without oil pressure. You WILL quickly knacker it.

If you can get oil pressure up then run it up to temp and dump the oil when its hot.


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


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I'd echo the others;


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Pull it appart!!!!!!!....................

That thick gunk will never ever get through the small oil galleries of the crank and through a 0.002" clearance of the bearings for it to be of any use, and running the engine knowing that gunk is in the oil galleries will destroy the crank.

20 minuits is fuck all when it come to oil temperature too!!

Accept it, rebuild it, and move on.

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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ok im going to be better off stipping it to get it clean as the chances of getting the pump and pick up clean is slim. so in the morn the engine will come out.

dont want to spend 2-3 hours trying to clean it when in that time i could have it apart.

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For me cant beat comma sonic, there is a bloke at my local autojumble who does it for £16 a gallon, I usually get all that he has.

On 18th Oct, 2013 apbellamy said:
I am feeling particularly BACish today.

On 5th Oct, 2014 Shauna said:
What that's crazy, you go commando hahaha! How heavy is your helmet *tongue*?

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Take lots of pictures when you strip it, then go to halfrauds and say £2k for a new engine please.

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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On 26th Aug, 2011 apbellamy said:
Take lots of pictures when you strip it, then go to halfrauds and say £2k for a new engine please.


Never happen!

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Are you saying he won't ask or they won't pay *wink*

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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look at it this way, the monkeys at Halfords know fuck all about cars, shit! they don't even know what they sell in the shop they work in. I'm surprised they still sell oil off the shelf, they don't seem to sell any of the other service items, such as brake fitting kits and fan belts!

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Is that not a halfrauds oil filter in the picture?

On 11th Feb, 2015 robert said:
i tried putting soap on it , and heating it to brown , then slathered my new lube on it

*hehe!*


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Halfords by me stocks all service parts on the shelf, i agree with most of them knowing about as much as a 3 year old does about cars though.

On 26th Jan, 2012 Tom Fenton said:
ring problems are down to wear or abuse but although annoying it isn't a show stopper

On 5th Aug, 2014 madmk1 said:
Shit the bed! I had snapped the end of my shaft off!!

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cant really see a simple pourable 20/50 oil going totally jellylike ,, unless it was run on caster oil before

.... or some gross contaminant got in there ....

where you parked anywhere near mine and andy/s tents at the pod by any chance ?

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^^^ *hehe!*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Cheers robert. :)

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and another thread infected!


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On 26th Aug, 2011 oli79 said:
For me cant beat comma sonic, there is a bloke at my local autojumble who does it for £16 a gallon, I usually get all that he has.


Halfords Classic is made by Comma - same as the Comma Classic stuff.

On 15th Jul, 2009 fastcarl said:
a breif struggle ensued but Will emerged the victor with a pair of undies in his possesion


On 21st Sep, 2009 apbellamy said:
No, but you did chuck your guts up over my front gate the Saturday before! You even managed to get a bit in your arm pit...


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That halfords classic & comma classic says not suitable for turbo charged engines anyway ( I presume its a turbo) but that aside its a strange thing to happen in my opinion


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On 27th Aug, 2011 scott the joiner said:
That halfords classic & comma classic says not suitable for turbo charged engines anyway ( I presume its a turbo) but that aside its a strange thing to happen in my opinion


i believe eden has only just began to run the engine in, so it would be ok to use surely. And then put the good stuff in afterwards


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I'm with robert, , this happened far to quickly, i'd be looking at contamination from somthing that will cause polymerization.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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In my opinion dont touch the engine take what you have to Halfords and explain what will need to be done to the engine to rectify this unfortunate situation.

It may take a few weeks to sort out but more than likely they will cough up for a rebuild of your engine.

When the forks on my Carrera mountain bike kept bending they blamed me for riding of curbs but 3 sets later they decided to investigate and found the forks were faulty and eventualy replaced them with a redesigned set. so they do fess up in the end and dont try to sweep stuff under the carpet.

Good luck.

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well. on the upside, atleast it wont leak everywhere.......

but before you do anything call halfords and get on their case!!!

On 2nd Oct, 2009 Vegard said:


On 1st Oct, 2009 Jimster said:
I bet my first wank came quicker than your first mini turbo


These new modern turbos with their quick spool up time, would make the competition harder.


On 15th Aug, 2011 robert said:
phew!!! thank you brett for smashing in my back doors .( not something i imagined writing... EVER)


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On 27th Aug, 2011 Mr Joshua said:
In my opinion dont touch the engine take what you have to Halfords and explain what will need to be done to the engine to rectify this unfortunate situation.

It may take a few weeks to sort out but more than likely they will cough up for a rebuild of your engine.



Never going to happen!!

Can you catagorically prove that you never bought the oil before this sludge incident? Even then can you catagorically prove that the sludge was infact the fault of the oil and not the engine?

You could go back to the same store and buy some more of the same oil, maybe even the same batch and then send it off to be expertly analysed. If there is nothing wrong with the oil, why should they pay out for anything?

Everything I have read about the black death shows that even the experts sometimes cannot work out why it happens.

Whathappened to the cracked head incident? how much of the sluge from that was cleaned out prior to running the engine again?

I'm on the same thoughts as others, it is contamination, but what you need to decide is what kind of contamination, since you had problems with the engine before this, was this in the sump already?

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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The only things that could contaminate it is, fuel, antifreeze, any build lube/grease that was used.

If you've got some oil left, you could try mixing it with possible contaminants and see what happens? *oh well*

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A good idea in principle but it would have to be done at the right temperature and in the right order if more than one is involved, which it probably is (even in minute concentrations). That makes it very difficult as 1000's of combinations would then be involved.


On 27th Aug, 2011 matty said:
The only things that could contaminate it is, fuel, antifreeze, any build lube/grease that was used.

If you've got some oil left, you could try mixing it with possible contaminants and see what happens? *oh well*

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