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stuart gurr - vmaxscart

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yes ,taking money /time into account , just changing to a mapped ignition would maybe get 80 % of the gains - estimated untill back to back test carried out - compared to fuel and ignition ecu, i'm in a lucky posistion to be able to throw some time and money at it and write it off against my business,
a wet manifold is definately the easiest way to achieve efi , and charge robbing could be eliminated by direct injecting, maybe through sparkplug area - its mostly solid , maybe enough room for small m8 thread spark plug and direct injector ?-
aftermarket fuel injectionon minis turbo or atmo is early days but it can only get better!

Edited by stuart gurr - vmaxscart on 13th Apr, 2005.


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I'm still waiting till I get a 7-port head, that way injection is easy.

Also it will be a a vast improvement over my standard 12g940 I run at the moment.

Wil

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the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
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I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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i've had an email from Jenvey..

"The problem with the mini is the siamised ports because it robs the fuel from the other port. The way some of our customers do it is by injecting the fuel less but more often. This creates a wet style manifold. As far as I know no one has jet got a good system working on a mini.

I would try using a pair of SF throttle bodies on an old twin SU manifold as I feel that would give the best chance of working. I would then use 2 SF throttle bodies of 40-45mm bore with a pair of 45x90 airhorns."

I've also had a suggestion to use a BMW KC1100 head instead! How the hell will that fit!



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re the bike head, have a search for a user called "madmatt" or similar on miniowners and the 16vminiclub. believe hes got a site with details of the conversion :)

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Uh, sorry, not meaning to spoil the party, but is there anyone that can give me an answer in the initial question? In numbers?
Thanks,
Hugo

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its on there, about 5 posts down from stuart *smiley*


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On 11/04/2005 08:22:50 stuart gurr - vmaxscart said:

yes the jenvey body will bolt on but the pcd is smaller so with minispeed conversion they use overlapping washers , ignition avance will bearound 30 degrees at idle, cruising off boost up to 45 - if you have lower compression than the std engine it will require more advance - basic load settings 15 @2000 ,20@2500 ,24@ 3500, 26@5000,28@7000,are you using a map sensor ?




Hi Hugo, Sorry for us all going 'off track'! The above figures from Stu are what you need to achieve at full power/boost. Off boost cruise advance can be loads to get great economy. You need to lose this huge advance once you start to accelerate however. It'll need tweaking once you're on the road and accertain what your throttle position is at what rpm under light/steady cruise.


What is your ECU - or rather - what is your ignition map window look like - Is it 12x12, 16x16? How is the pressure compensation configured - does it change the current advance figure by a percentage of the current advance per unit of boost, or by a fixed amount of advance?

Also, Are you able to set-up your RPM columns, or are they pre-fixed?

D

Edited by turbodave16v on 15th Apr, 2005.

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Mike

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(y sorry for the hijack, but a good thread all the same)



Nic

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i had the displeasure of reading miniworld in whsmiths this week, minisport (groan) are selling that akm 7port head now

i may take one off their hands in a couple of years time, then my car would be complete

edit: oh i forgot to say this would be ideal for the injection system, and you can still use your current manifold

Edited by Nic on 17th Apr, 2005.


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Sorry to butt in on another topic I have no idea about. One of the things I'm very interested in is head design and cam timing. I suppose that the N/A cam is bad enough for not considering the inlet port/flow behaviour, from theory, I would expect a more dense charge to have greater inertia. If EFi in 5 ports is a problem (Good article on the problems somewhere on the web by Marcel Chichac (sp?)) he was talking about using different cam timings to optimise the peculiarities of siamese inlets. I reckon the cam changes (which are outlined in Vizard) are worth considering for a forced induction engine. When I can be bothered, I'll come up with a proper explanation.

By the way, has anyone seen the new cam advertised in the mini magazines (can't remember who makes it) but it goes on about increased exhaust duration. Appears to be a nice compromise between the MG and the Ph2 cam.

Bugger off, I'm getting there.


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do you mean the swifttune SW5?

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