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Joe C

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PMSL!!

me=bazinga'd!

Ive ordered my syrofoam and carbon.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1

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theoneeyedlizard

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Ahhaaaa *wink*

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wil_h

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There is a theory that if you run an alloy head you can get away with a higher CR. I ignored this advice though.

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


theoneeyedlizard

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There's always the option of leaving the CR as it is and adding boost instead.


On 28th Jun, 2012 wil_h said:
There is a theory that if you run an alloy head you can get away with a higher CR. I ignored this advice though.

In the 13's at last!.. Just


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On 28th Jun, 2012 Paul S said:


My computer says quite the opposite when you use tuned length runners. More space in the combustion chamber allows more air to be burnt. You just need to make sure it is clean air :)



But more space in the chamber = less squish area = less efficient combustion


Ben H

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Oh, god lets not get into the whole squish debate again.

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On 29th Jun, 2012 Ben H said:
Oh, god lets not get into the whole squish debate again.


its only one of the myriad of parameters that make the thread question sort of irrelevant

Compression ratio is only one factor in a specific engine spec.

unless the detailed spec. of the engine is given , then the thread question is basically open ended


alpa

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Unless you are aiming at fuel economy at light loads the CR basically defines how close you can reach the best power ignition timing at high loads before engine starts pinging. But this data depends on so many parameters that it's difficult to predict without known experience on very similar engines.

Modern turbo engines can run 9:1 CR with quite high boosts (say 20psi). Given the fact that even 7 port A-Series heads have poorer VE levels you should not have problems with 9:1 at 10psi, as long as you pay attention to an even cylinder cooling and you use a precise engine management.
In theory you should get best results with a higher CR at low boost levels (10 psi is not high).

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mini93

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I read these kinda topics with interest. Did briefly skim over the otto cycle in uni' but iv since forgotten most/all of it.
Got a few questions though based on what people have said here.
If you can get basicly same power from lower boost and a higher static CR and saying you can run a well manored engine and good off-boost ecconomy. what are the benifits of lowering further but using more psi's to expect similar power when its been mentioned its a trade off for economy and drivability?
or is alot of based on turbo choice, cams and personal preference?

David.


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For a limited power expectation, you're better off with a higher CR and low boost (as you said : off-boost drivability, economy)

Low CR is for very high boost / power.

All the decision is in the "limited power"

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On 23rd Jun, 2008 paul wiginton said:

They said "That sounds rough mate." I said "Cheers it cost me a fortune to make it sound like that!"

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