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Whats the part number from iveco? Il get a price, if this is the turbo from the 99' turbo daily then ive changed and scrapped countless of these without realising


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751578/1

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this thread has all the part numbers. would post them but on phone atm.

http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=386707

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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a lot of the dailys had other turbos, only the 125hp ones seemed to feature this turbo.

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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On 29th Jan, 2014 theoneeyedlizard said:
Gt17 = Girly
Gt20 = Manly
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that told andy *happy*

this is a cracking turbo on the mini, and will deliver 30psi boost with ease,
but one thing i will say for those wishing to push this turbo to 250bhp or past 7k is watch out for that choke line *happy*
i believe i found it on the 5 port, the turbo will flow 30lb/min at 1 bar and support approx 300 crank bhp (but this is at 1 bar) and the A series will need more than 1 bar for that power so if we raise the pressure ratio we find more boost but less flow, the boost will help make the power but the reduction in flow will limit the max power ( the other way around you might be able to rev it out to 9k but i suspect you would see the boost tailing off)

obviously there is the problem with the tiny wastegate, mine had a 23/24mm wastegate penny iirc and i managed to port the wastegate out to 21x22 ish mm and that was enough for me ( manifold and downpipe will have alot of influence with this )

i would recommend an external wastegate if your going for a K head with lots of revs....personally i will never run with an internally gated turbo again, i have this exact same problem on the skyline :( but that is a gt30 frame turbo squeezed into recast but essentially a stock sized exhaust housing


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brett , I think you might find that flow actually increases after 15 psi ?

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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wheres the prices :)

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On 29th Jan, 2014 robert said:
brett , I think you might find that flow actually increases after 15 psi ?


at what rpm?

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"Girly" GT17 ?

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On 29th Jan, 2014 Brett said:



On 29th Jan, 2014 robert said:
brett , I think you might find that flow actually increases after 15 psi ?


at what rpm?



I think I might have missunderstood you ,, I thought you were saying at anything above 15 psi boost(or 2 bar as its shown on the map)the turbo flowed less than at 15 psi , eg the choke line was leaning to the left from 15 psi upwards .

looking at this map , it appears to flow a few pounds more as you hgo towards 2.5 bar ,and then back to the same flow as 15 psi arouns 3 bar 30 psi approx.

bear in mind this may be a different wheel to the one your looking at ?

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM


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On 29th Jan, 2014 madonminis said:
Thinking of upgrading yours Steve?

I could be tempted by one of these.

On 29th Jan, 2014 BENROSS said:
let see who can get the most discount for the benefit of all

put me down for one


yes i have to pull the engine because of a knob ach oil leak, and i will upgrade things a little ....lol, mind you i built this engine many! years ago :

Edited by BENROSS on 30th Jan, 2014.






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will get these priced up from parts in the morning, these will be genuine gt2056 too.


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I did not realise they had done a more detailed compressor map than the one I got a featyears back, ill try and dig it out , on mine the choke line is probably around the 170k rpm line on yours
got this one from google this is the one i was thinking about when replying yesterday
My theory is well I know for a fact this is an excellent turbo for the a series but imo there is not enough head room left for a high rev and high power engine , I d be willing to bet this turbo will produce all the power you need before 7k with no need to rev the engine out to 8.5-9k im not saying it wont go there but I doubt there will be any gain in useable power there

this is just my gut feeling having used that turbo and the time I spent pondering over my Kbuild with almost all compressor maps i could get my hands on




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According to my simulations, the Garrett hp limit for the 2056 of 260hp is spot on.

I simulated a GT2560 on a high revving 1293 and the output jumped by over 10%.

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just looking forward to the price now!

do people fit these to the metty exhaust manifold? and what do you do with downpipes? cheers, dan


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Prices:
From my work (iveco main dealership) this turbo is 276, my discount gets it to 217 finding out about bulk purchase now


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On 30th Jan, 2014 Paul S said:
According to my simulations, the Garrett hp limit for the 2056 of 260hp is spot on.

I simulated a GT2560 on a high revving 1293 and the output jumped by over 10%.


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That is a bloody good discount Dev! Even I would be interested in one as a spare! lol

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very well done!

On 7th Oct, 2010 5haneJ said:
yeah I gave it all a good prodding


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Sorry by the way that is before vat, so around 260 all in, waiting for him to get back to me about 10+ units

Edited by dev 11 on 30th Jan, 2014.


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there may be a larger discount on the 10+ or is it likely that this will be the best price?


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they gen GT2056? doesnt seemt hat bad for 260!

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£1 per bhp, money well spent imo..

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Wow thats about a 65 procent disqount of what they cost over here...

you can do anything if you set your mind to it...
i rather blow it up winning than keep it together losing.

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