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iain
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He hasnt, i picked him up from work when i was picking an engine up off him! I live about 1hr and a half away!

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jim dont take the piss, ive kept quiet but normally when you pay for something straight away on ebay you get it within the following month! I waited absolutely ages! I also paid for postage, but you still tried to put it through work for free? Whats that all about?
And no, i dont see why i should have to explain myself, but i did tell you about ricks mini and what happened. He would have drove me all the way to get the intercooler if his ball joint didnt snap, but why should i have to also pay all that fuel? Do you think i live locally to giallofly or something?

I just hope you havent ruined the atmosphere at Avonpark now.

I cant be arst arguing anyway, ive got an intercooler now!

sparkyunlimited i got the mail returned, i think i copied your email address wrong though, i got it as DAVEFV1, i think its an L!

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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You said it runs when the starter is keyed.

Have you checked the ignition system?
Sounds to me like you have a ballest ignition wire feeding a non ballest coil.

Try running a wire from the fuesbox to the + side of the coil to prove/disprove this!


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OK gibbo! ill give that a try too! Finished now, and its ALOT neater. Everything is tight and done right, and im more confident in the exhaust not blowing now.

Getting fuel first thing in the morning, would have it tonite BUT I CANT GET A LIFT ANYWHERE SORRY JIM. No offence jim but its really been annoying me that you keep going on about it.

Should know the verdict tomorow, at least this new turbo should be better.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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ballast system shouldn't cause that. Mine was on Ballast wire but started and ran fine, I put a new wire in on recommendation

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you are right Feebs, it is an L not a 1.

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ah thats why then, sorry :(

Its all ready to go now anyway.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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Yeah a ballest system will run fine, as long as the coil is a ballest coil.

If he has a 12v coil and the ballest wire connected then starting is gonna be a problem.

With the key in start position, the ballest wire is effectivly shorted, so the car may run. That is my thinking.
Could be wrong, but does sound ignition related from the discription.

I've fitted engines before that won't fire up. Connect the ballest start wire and they start first time.

Edited by Gibbo on 8th Jul, 2004.


iain
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just loop a wire from the fuse box to the coil. Will see if it works, any terminal will do.


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ok then! That could explain it then. My old wiring loom in my mini and the metro didnt have that wire :)

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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keep going on about it?? I only mentioned it once!

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On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:

I think the welsh one has it right!


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of turbo twinkie in a car and first to
run a 1/4 in one!!

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The resistive (pink and white) wire is wired from the ignition so is live only when the ignition is on, the second wire comes from the starter motor solenoid and is energised when the starter is cranked. My mini does run with the resistive wire only on the coil (without the jumper to the fuse box) but I have since disconnected the wire from the starter and the resistive wire and run a new feed from the fuse box. My coil is a metty T 12v unit. The resistive wire has RESISTIVE written along it.

Is it running Feebs?

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if your engines still filling up with petrol check your fuel pressure like jimster said and pull the bottom of your carb off and check the float height and the shut off needle in the float chamber is closing. if you do check the float make sure its not got a hole in and filled up with petrol

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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I by passed the pink wire and you was right! It did fire!

It nearly runs!!!

Problem is definately fuel pressure. With fuel pump connected, it will turn over forever, but not run.
If i disconnect the fuel pump, then try to start the car, it starts! But, only for about three seconds, then it dies! It revs fine and everything though! Thanks for the advice on the wires, it didnt even do that before i bypassed the pink wire.

What do i set the pressure to? Next task is where to get a guage from tomorow in town!

does it sound like the pressure is too high? Its the screw on top of the regulator isnt it?

I bet its because im now using the cooper tank pump and not the metro one.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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halfords sell those gunson lo guages i think


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Also to jim, if you go through your posts (do a search) this is the 3rd time you have mentioned it, and to be honest its taking the piss a bit.

I respect you because of your knowledge and skills on your mini, and i think your a nice guy, but i dont see why i should suck up when you did that. 15 quid may not be alot to you, but to me that intercooler was important for planning the hoses, and on a student wage i have to be carefull with what i spend, and now i have had to pay for two! You still have the 15 quid. Hopefully ill make it to avonpark you can give me it there.

Im dissapointed in you Jimster, if you didnt want to post it in the first place i wish you had just told me before i sent payment.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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ok cool ill look at halfords online!

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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doesnt say they do online :(

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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Feebs just use your boost gauge to set you pressure
I cant see any reason y it should not work it is only measruing PSI at the end of the day

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Oh ok! Ill give it a go then with the T piece it came with, ill just block off the pipe from the manifold that goes to it for the time being :)

So, im taking it between the carb and the regulator yeah, and it should be arround 4psi pressure?

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


iain
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3.5 with the engine not running should do the trick. Shame im not up your way this weekend as ive got all the gear!


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Right just had a thought, to get it idling try this

screw the adjuster as far out as possible
take the hose off at the carb
put that end in a petrol can
switch on ignition and adjust till you have a slow and not very powerful stream
This will be enough juice to get it going.
Once the carb is full however if the float height is set correctly it should idle for a good 30seconds or so without putting more fuel in i should think.

DONT BOOST THE CAR THOUGH UNTIL YOU GET A GAUGE!!!


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Have been out playing with my mini today (first time in about a month) got it started and running easy enough, then it decided to die, it restarted but died about a minute later. Then it wouldn't start again at all, keeps filling the cylinders with fuel!!!!!!

Frigging annoying! have you got to the bottom of your problem feebs? My miini was running happy as larry before this. Have you traced it to a blocked fuel return or something?

Cheers

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yeah the return was blocked! to check, unplug the return and have it pointing into a container, then turn the fuel pump on for a few seconds. See if anything comes out!

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3


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will give it a go soon.

cheers

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