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520 Posts Member #: 2093 Post Whore Grenoble, France |
1st Jun, 2008 at 10:14:43pm
On 1st Jun, 2008 TurboHarry said:
I think I should try a VNT turbo sometime?! Not easy to control (I spent 2-3 weeks on that). If you use a diesel one then add a wastegate. std 998 A+, g295, MD266, RHF4, 109hp @0.8bar/5400rpm |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
1st Jun, 2008 at 10:17:14pm
Did you drive with a VNT already?
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
2nd Jun, 2008 at 12:15:57pm
What kind of IAT's are you getting at full boost and off boost? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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520 Posts Member #: 2093 Post Whore Grenoble, France |
2nd Jun, 2008 at 01:25:22pm
On 1st Jun, 2008 TurboHarry said:
Did you drive with a VNT already? Do the vanes survive for some time on petrol engines? (Except the Porsche stuff) Yes of course I've driven. For about a month. However my boost is very low, 115kpa with spikes to 130kpa. In some discussions on this forum guys were saying modern diesel/petrol turbo rotors are the same. I don't see why nozzles would be different. The only difference is water cooling on petrol turbos. Say Seat "overclocked" TD would go up to 200-250 HP, I presume exhaust temperatures must be high. std 998 A+, g295, MD266, RHF4, 109hp @0.8bar/5400rpm |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
2nd Jun, 2008 at 02:04:43pm
I have heard that porsche did the first petrol VNT turbo engine - of course they have to produce a motor that stays for 200 000km alive - I don't worry about the turbine wheels (at the moment I am also running a Diesel turbine) - I am worried about sticking of the vanes because of the higher petrol EGT (about 200°C more than a diesel) I guess clearances should be higher on a petrol VNT because of a higher Delta T. (-40°C in Dnjepopetrovsk to 950°C on full boost motorway in Germany Bimmer Twinky headed and turboed A-Series:
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520 Posts Member #: 2093 Post Whore Grenoble, France |
2nd Jun, 2008 at 04:12:18pm
I think we can not use stock car numbers for modified cars. Porsche tend to be conservative with still well controlled machining margins.
std 998 A+, g295, MD266, RHF4, 109hp @0.8bar/5400rpm |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
2nd Jun, 2008 at 10:26:43pm
This VNT topic starts my interest.....I will also look for some more information - we should share our findings.... Bimmer Twinky headed and turboed A-Series:
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
2nd Jun, 2008 at 10:37:46pm
Just found that:
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520 Posts Member #: 2093 Post Whore Grenoble, France |
3rd Jun, 2008 at 11:35:22am
This is one of discussions I found. Interesting.
std 998 A+, g295, MD266, RHF4, 109hp @0.8bar/5400rpm |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
3rd Jun, 2008 at 03:04:15pm
I aslo found it interesting that someone has made this (bad) experience with VNT and is sharing it so directly....
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1391 Posts Member #: 1686 Post Whore Oxford |
5th Jun, 2008 at 08:16:18pm
ill give it ago on a 5 port, if its dire ill lop the flanges off the manifold and put a gt17 on there. On 19th Feb, 2011 Miniwilliams said:
OMG Robert that's a big one |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
20th Jun, 2008 at 08:05:26pm
Another 50miles driven today - external wastegate now keeps boost at about 0,5bar perfectly - also made my fuel map a lot better with the MS VE Analyzer tool - engine starts to pull strong at about 4000rpm...(sorry, still don't know how to post pictures...) Bimmer Twinky headed and turboed A-Series:
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
20th Jun, 2008 at 08:36:29pm
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/photo/610/
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Site Admin ![]() 9407 Posts Member #: 58 455bhp per ton 12 sec 1/4 mile road legal mini Sunny Bridgend, South Wales |
20th Jun, 2008 at 08:53:56pm
I had to go down the same route with the external wastegate. What did you do with the internal wastgate? On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:
I think the welsh one has it right! 1st to provide running proof of turbo twinkie in a car and first to run a 1/4 in one!! Is your data backed up?? one extra month free for all Turbo minis members, PM me for detials |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
21st Jun, 2008 at 10:01:12am
I just kept the original setup with max preloaded spring to keep the internal gate shut.....was the fastest and easiest way to do for me. Bimmer Twinky headed and turboed A-Series:
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
21st Jun, 2008 at 07:09:44pm
I hope I don't have to go down this route..ive had enough of making things for the time being! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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Site Admin ![]() 9407 Posts Member #: 58 455bhp per ton 12 sec 1/4 mile road legal mini Sunny Bridgend, South Wales |
22nd Jun, 2008 at 05:32:40pm
On 21st Jun, 2008 TurboHarry said:
I just kept the original setup with max preloaded spring to keep the internal gate shut.....was the fastest and easiest way to do for me. you lazy sod!!!! I did exactly the same thing, LOL On 15th May, 2009 TurboDave said:
I think the welsh one has it right! 1st to provide running proof of turbo twinkie in a car and first to run a 1/4 in one!! Is your data backed up?? one extra month free for all Turbo minis members, PM me for detials |
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
22nd Jun, 2008 at 05:42:44pm
Matty, I hope you have some few feet of pipes left... Bimmer Twinky headed and turboed A-Series:
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
22nd Jun, 2008 at 06:02:48pm
Yeah Ive got a bit left! :)
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
22nd Jun, 2008 at 08:42:09pm
Boost creep happens when the wastegate is too small - so not enough of the exhaust gases can be bypassed -so more than wanted exh. gas flows over the turbine, which speeds the turbo up and creates more boost.
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
22nd Jun, 2008 at 11:13:44pm
Ah I thought that was the case. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fusion-Fabri..._homepage_panel
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263 Posts Member #: 115 Senior Member Austria, near Vienna |
24th Jun, 2008 at 05:46:38pm
Port is 18mm
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
29th Jun, 2008 at 08:55:16pm
Haven't measured my port or anything but already showing signs of boost creep!!
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![]() 1566 Posts Member #: 36 Post Whore Basingstoke |
30th Jun, 2008 at 09:06:58am
back in the workshop matty |
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
30th Jun, 2008 at 10:44:52pm
Its going to have to wait for now mate. Lol
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