Plastics for performance group buy UPDATE 8/10/10 page 5
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soz, i am out on this one, no funds

I am going to have to pull out. I have just been on the P4P site and even with the 15% discount I cant afford the Mk1 conversion kit I wanted. Welder going pop didnt help this matter any. Sorry

Let me just mention,
just because it says "scratch resistant" its not!

i paid the extra to get the "scratch resistant" windows and collected them too, but even the slightest touch with anything and they scratch,

mine have scratches all ove them from people just walking past in the garage, even a zip on your coat jacket will scratch them


somehow a cloth that had been used previously with some sort of panel wipe or something got used on my drivers window - big mistake, the window melted and i had to buy a new one from plastics4pefomance

i havent had my mini on the road yet, but im seriously considering changing the front two windows to glass because just winding them up and down as marked them.

i asked the owner about why my "scratch proof" windows are scratching and he didnt care, i can understand, its my fault and the people in my garage that theyre marked, but they shouldnt have been sold as non-scratching, they cost a hell of alot of money and i paid full price!

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

Hmm, you've made me have doubts now, i think Nic has the fronts and didn't have any problems, is it too late to place an order Wolfie or are you ready to go?

No you can still order Gavin

James i understand your concern but you only ever come on here to slate companies and it seems you have an issue with everyone you buy parts from, no company is perfect but you just seem to find fault in everything, if people want to pull out from what James has said then so be it however i will still buy from them and if the windows are shit then i will take it up with them not slate them on here without them having an oppotunity to answer back

Edited by wolfie on 16th Sep, 2010.

I get the opinion you had a faulty product James and that should have been rectified but obviously was not for a matter you havnt't been clear on :s and from what I understand you used a cloth with chemical cleaner or something like white spirt and are surprised it ate through them 8/ which they have every right to refuse a refund as its your own fault!
But for your one negative experience there has been a lot of recommendations for both product and customer experience so I believe I speak for the sensible among us when I say wolfie I will not be pulling out, if the windows mark easy just like you I will take it up with the company that made then and pursue a refund

Sorry for the late response Neil, but I'll have to give it a miss, few to many bills this month.

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not sure why your windows were damaged so easy james, my friend is actualy a P4P dealer and had alot of window kits bought in and this is the 1st iv heard of the scratch resistant ones being damaged so easy. Even my non coated windows dont get damaged by the mear brushing of a zip.
Yesterday i cleaned my windows with solvent cleaner and had no discolouration or any damage at all...and of course there still going to scratch with a sharp implement, there still plastic, the surface finish wasnt ever going to be as tough as glass...but why do you go poking around windows with knifes anyways.

David.

1) Wolfie - Scratch resistant mk3 £269.66 - wind up fronts and chrome frame pop out rears. in 4mm with thermoformed rear screen

2) racer_pete - mk3 4mm polycarb, flat poly, clear oversize/bolt it rear screen. 2x rear 1/4 4mm clear poly, bolt/oversize. 139.28 inc VAT & Postage.


3) Nick: Normal MK3 4mm Bronze tint flat fronts, standard rear, rubber seal quarters. 2 slider kits £217.50 with post

4) scruffy - scruffy - MINI MK3 DOOR WINDOW WITH SLIDER KIT THICKNESS & COLOUR: 4mm Bronze polycarbonate FRONT DOOR WINDOW TYPE: Oversize to fit GRP Door MINI MK3 DOOR WINDOW
THICKNESS & COLOUR: 4mm Bronze polycarbonate
FRONT DOOR WINDOW TYPE: Oversize to fit GRP Door
£99.87

5) Adam_R

6) maccamcvey - Scratch resistant Mk3 wind up fronts and rubber seal rear quarters clear 4mm. NO rear. £107.28. (i have no check book so paypal for me)

7) apbellamy - Scratch resistant mk3 £269.66 - wind up fronts and chrome frame pop out rears. in 4mm with thermoformed rear screen.

8) Joe C - Mk1 4mm Clear Polycarbonate, Standard - 2 Peice Door Window, Chrome Frame fit 1/4 Windows, Standard Rear Screen to fit Rubber Seal + Thermoformed Rear Screen £211.36

9) munnracing

10) advantage998

11) lockfast

12) Turbo Phil

13)

14) theoneeyedlizard - mk3 rear quarter in clear x 2 £59.93

15) t2clubby (Kean) Normal MK3 4mm Bronze tint flat fronts, standard rear, rubber seal quarters. 2 slider kits £217.50 with post

16) Gaball - Scratch resistant mk3 £269.66 - wind up fronts and rubber seal rears, thermoformed rear screen.

17)supermotolee (mk1)

18) philc

19) martpaul

20) sturgeo
THICKNESS & COLOUR: 4mm Clear Polycarbonate
FRONT DOOR WINDOW TYPE: Flat - Standard Glass shape
REAR 1/4 WINDOW TYPE: Rubber Seal Fit 1/4 Window
REAR WINDSCREEN TYPE: Standard Rear Screen to fit Rubber Seal
OPTIONAL SPEC.: Standard Kit as Detailed
SLIDER KITS: 2 x Budget Slider Kits
£203.51 inc postage & VAT

21) minimole23

22) haimesyboi - Scratch resistant mk3 £249.68 - wind up fronts and rubber seal rears.

Sorry for late reply had to work out the monies situation, cheers.

edit- added postage to order

Edited by racer_pete on 17th Sep, 2010.

looks like im going to have to back out.
sorry guys but ive got loads of other things to buy before windows

Sorry to stick my nose in but whenever theres a group buy every one says yes until it comes to handing the money over then half of them back out.
Yes some have real reasons but for fook sake dont commit if you dont go through with it.

Rick

This is also a one off Rick i wont do another, its surprisingly time consuming

sorry lads going to have to pull from this one ive had the garage broken into and its put me off working on my car where it is whilst my garage is getting built at home so ill to get some another time

sorry lads going to have to pull from this one ive had the garage broken into and its put me off working on my car where it is whilst my garage is getting built at home so ill to get some another time

everyone that pulls out should buy wolfie a beer

In general I agree thats its PITA when people pull out of group buys. I'd like to think I have a genuine reason as my circumstances changed from when I originally comitted (company bust, facing redundancy etc).

If it means I owe wolfie a beer at some point then so be it.

If something is worth doing, it's worth doing half of.

ive sorted out some overtime to pay for these so am back in! (if thats ok of course?)

Adam thats fine however its to late in the day for cheques

Paypal is prob best i will send you a PM

i dont mind buying wolfie a beer but as my garage has been broken into im still sorting through the various boxes of stuff i have to find out whats missing and going to need replacing :(

Updated to change seal preferances after combe - final decision!






1) Wolfie - Scratch resistant mk3 £269.66 - wind up fronts and chrome frame pop out rears. in 4mm with thermoformed rear screen

2) racer_pete - mk3 4mm polycarb, flat poly, clear oversize/bolt it rear screen. 2x rear 1/4 4mm clear poly, bolt/oversize. 139.28 inc VAT & Postage.


3) Nick: Normal MK3 4mm Bronze tint flat fronts, standard rear, rubber seal quarters. 2 slider kits £217.50 with post

4) scruffy - scruffy - MINI MK3 DOOR WINDOW WITH SLIDER KIT THICKNESS & COLOUR: 4mm Bronze polycarbonate FRONT DOOR WINDOW TYPE: Oversize to fit GRP Door MINI MK3 DOOR WINDOW
THICKNESS & COLOUR: 4mm Bronze polycarbonate
FRONT DOOR WINDOW TYPE: Oversize to fit GRP Door
£99.87

5) Adam_R - 4mm mk3 Scratch resistant clear
STD one piece door window
Chrome frame fit quarters
Thermothormed rear window rubber seal fit
2 slider kits
£330.56 delivered

6) maccamcvey - Scratch resistant Mk3 wind up fronts and rubber seal rear quarters clear 4mm. NO rear. £107.28. (i have no check book so paypal for me)

7) apbellamy - Scratch resistant mk3 £269.66 - wind up fronts and chrome frame pop out rears. in 4mm with thermoformed rear screen.

8) Joe C - Mk1 4mm Clear Polycarbonate, Standard - 2 Peice Door Window, Chrome Frame fit 1/4 Windows, Standard Rear Screen to fit Rubber Seal + Thermoformed Rear Screen £211.36

9) munnracing

10) advantage998

11) lockfast

12) Turbo Phil

13)

14) theoneeyedlizard - mk3 rear quarter in clear x 2 £59.93

15) t2clubby (Kean) Normal MK3 4mm Bronze tint flat fronts, standard rear, rubber seal quarters. 2 slider kits £217.50 with post

16) Gaball - Scratch resistant mk3 £269.66 - wind up fronts and rubber seal rears, thermoformed rear screen.

17)supermotolee (mk1)

18) philc

19) martpaul

20) sturgeo
THICKNESS & COLOUR: 4mm Clear Polycarbonate
FRONT DOOR WINDOW TYPE: Flat - Standard Glass shape
REAR 1/4 WINDOW TYPE: Rubber Seal Fit 1/4 Window
REAR WINDSCREEN TYPE: Standard Rear Screen to fit Rubber Seal
OPTIONAL SPEC.: Standard Kit as Detailed
SLIDER KITS: 2 x Budget Slider Kits
£203.51 inc postage & VAT

21) minimole23 - 4mm clear polycarbonate. Front - standard shape with 2 budget slider kits. Rear - rubber seal rear quarter, and rubber seal rear window.
£203.51 inc vat and postage.

22) haimesyboi - Scratch resistant mk3 £249.68 - wind up fronts and rubber seal rears.

Edited by minimole23 on 26th Sep, 2010.

Previous Engine: 1040cc Morespeed engine, 1275 turbo head T2 Turbo Mirage Manifolds Megajolt
Previous engine: STD metro turbo, megajolt
Drives: 399bananahp (flywheel) Honda Civic Vtec b18c4 T28 Turbo 1968 Mini

Megajolt maps to download: http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/cms/index.ph...&gid=3&Itemid=3

acespeed

no offence but there plastic windows and not glass anyone who thinks there glass and treats them like glass is an idiot, plastic windows are plastic windows regardless of where you buy them from and PFP have a good reputation if not the best, i am sure you would not be on the soapbox if it was another company but same product, you have said your piece and i have given and still am giving people the oppotunity to pull out i suggest you leave it at that, no-one interested in a wich hunt this is not TMF our users are adults and can deal with any issues with the product that may arise like adults.

Edited by wolfie on 27th Sep, 2010.

Just to clarify gents i think james is taking the piss, now i carnt go into too much detail as am sure most of you are aware where am going in the morning.

Ive got the windows and paul from p4p is good bloke, scratch resistant is just that its a coating obviously they will still mark am sure nic who we can all trust has plastic windups in his fron doors most of the miglia lads run them, ive got a plastic front screen in mine and was told by a good soure the mig lads last a good season with the wipers on with a plastic window. Am sure most of you are keeping the front glass.

Please dont listen to james and the shit hes coming out with just like the acespeed thing. We all no rich at minispares and how we can trust him, he is also friends with mr acespeed and never has a bad word to say.

Just get on with the group buy, neil is doing his best to sort all this out gents.

Thanks Rick