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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
6th Aug, 2006 at 12:58:58pm
Edited by Sprocket on 6th Aug, 2006. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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322 Posts Member #: 1158 Senior Member Manchester |
6th Aug, 2006 at 01:44:19pm
Sprocket, cooper ecu's can be bought uncoded to the car and then step up for 25 notes by a company in warrington. I paid 140 inc vat for mine.
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
6th Aug, 2006 at 01:46:46pm
Camco?
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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1425 Posts Member #: 690 Post Whore Norfolk |
6th Aug, 2006 at 04:23:11pm
nice and smooth curves- especially as the ecu isn't closely matched to the motor - lots more to come. If Carling made Mini engines
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
6th Aug, 2006 at 05:20:55pm
Good stuff. You sound happy!
Edited by TurboDave16V on 6th Aug, 2006. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
Sorry to say My Herpes are no better Ready to feel Ancient ??? This is 26 years old as of 2022 https://youtu.be/YQQokcoOzeY |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
6th Aug, 2006 at 05:52:36pm
On 06/08/2006 17:20:55 TurboDave said:
Good stuff. You sound happy! So how 'skilled / talented' did you find the RR guys at minisport? I've heard so many conflicting stories... I'll be very honest in that of all the times I've had a car on the rollers, its been at Minisport, but that was back when they had the analogue set up. It was also the oldish bloke with a tash, cant remember his name (is he still there), never had a problem and the car always drove better when we left. Jackman had his on the rollers there early this year and basicaly they left the initial timing somewhere around 35 degrees because the vac unit fouled the oil pressure take off, removed the vac advance line and said there was too much advance, but not why. It was pants. 20mpg on a 998 E with a 2.9 FD, PANTS! And £60 shy in the pocket. This was only a plot so not much to go wrong. It was done by Daniel Harper, i think he's the younger of the brothers, and a bit more of the tech guy. I also seem to remember he was the guy who did a lot of the development work on the SPi. Had a kind of one on one chat about the engine. He said its fairly good and that it could do with the cooper ECU to give it more fuel(knew that anyway). I asked about the Superchip's Icon (not that I will EVER buy one) just to see what reaction i got. Very good he said and then explained that you can achieve much the same with moving the reluctor + - 5 degrees. What you gona pay, £300 for the Icon or blood and sweet moving the reluctor. I still think that MiniSport is the place to go in the north west (Deffo not Automech in Cadishead) for rolling road tune, they know minis inside out, but i think this depends how well you know what they are doing as well and talk to them, and if your lucky, will have the parts on the shelf, IE needles, plugs, and the likes. I've never had a problem with them in this way. Most RR's these days dont know what an SU carb is. How do you get on in the US, they must get freaked out when you turn up with a pint size car with an SU carb, do the have rollers narrow enough to get the Mini on? Minisport Attitude though stinks, but then that can be said about the Lancastrian attitude some times anyway. Some of there own design parts are not the best by far - who redesigns knuckle joints that have been around for over thirty five years when they designed their Adjusta Rides, standard knuckles dont fit, money spinner if i ever heard one. Doh. And they are not the cheepest. Any way. Like I said, I havent had a problem and never will as its only going to be plots from now on. On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 982 Posts Member #: 97 Post Whore Near Daventry, midlands |
7th Aug, 2006 at 12:20:19pm
when i was there with my first engine they filed the needle on one side (chap with a tash) and i havent ever been back since. They even canceled my credit for returning an item because i didnt use the credit up in time.
I've seen the future and tbh its Pie
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322 Posts Member #: 1158 Senior Member Manchester |
7th Aug, 2006 at 12:36:26pm
Er no its not them, i will speak to the spanny monkey and find out.
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![]() 695 Posts Member #: 984 Post Whore Westhoughton, Bolton |
7th Aug, 2006 at 02:00:46pm
On 07/08/2006 12:20:19 andeh said:
when i was there with my first engine they filed the needle on one side (chap with a tash) and i havent ever been back since. Thats what the guy did with mine, im sure its the same guy, will never go back there for a tuneup. |
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
7th Aug, 2006 at 03:01:32pm
On 07/08/2006 14:00:46 Jackman said:
On 07/08/2006 12:20:19 andeh said:
when i was there with my first engine they filed the needle on one side (chap with a tash) and i havent ever been back since. Thats what the guy did with mine, im sure its the same guy, will never go back there for a tuneup. I don't see the problem with just filing the needle on one side, after all what you are trying to achieve by filing it is to increase the available area at the jet for a given dashpot lift. Whether the extra area is evenly all around the needle or at one side doesn't make a toss of difference in my opinion, I have filed needles like this myself plenty of times when doing needles for class 1 autograss engines and it has always worked fine.
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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![]() 695 Posts Member #: 984 Post Whore Westhoughton, Bolton |
7th Aug, 2006 at 03:06:55pm
Well it was also filed on a rich needle to richer at just above idle and at driving rpm which didnt help, i always thought my car would have been louder after the stage one, but as soon as MS noticed the advance it was very very quite compared to how it was. |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Aug, 2006 at 06:06:07pm
Yeh, what they did to Jackmans engine was pants.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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![]() 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
7th Aug, 2006 at 06:17:39pm
Oh and Peter, I will be doing active research with the MSII V3. This version 3 has the capebility to control a five wire stepper, high or low impedence injectors and direct fire distributer or wasted spark ignition. This makes it ideal for me when i swap to the 16valve multi point. Baisicaly going to set it up for the 16valve but run only 1 injector. Ive got a rover idle valve which has the same plug and works in a similar fashion to the stepper motor on the SPI, makes it easy on the code. Just need to source the hardware, undecided whether to buy the kit and build it myself or buy it built and tested.
On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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322 Posts Member #: 1158 Senior Member Manchester |
7th Aug, 2006 at 07:13:13pm
i might know some one. i'll have words.
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Site Admin ![]() 15300 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
7th Aug, 2006 at 07:28:32pm
On 07/08/2006 19:13:13 dev said:
peter the 90 bhp kit rarely makes it minisport reckon only three mpi's have evey made it.... though i could be wrong so dont quote me. I think that is what Peter was getting at with the "90bhp" rather than 90bhp........
On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:
On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else Like fuel 😂😂 |
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322 Posts Member #: 1158 Senior Member Manchester |
7th Aug, 2006 at 10:58:14pm
i think they are all different to be honest.
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th Aug, 2006 at 06:45:44am
on the same rollers? |
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322 Posts Member #: 1158 Senior Member Manchester |
8th Aug, 2006 at 12:24:55pm
yeah as far as i'm aware. strange eh?
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![]() 1849 Posts Member #: 672 The oversills police Oslo, Norway |
8th Aug, 2006 at 12:41:12pm
that depends on what the difference are I gues? |
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322 Posts Member #: 1158 Senior Member Manchester |
8th Aug, 2006 at 12:47:13pm
crank, pistons, flywheel, rods also mine has k&n direct and they have panels and air boxes? so there is some diff there i suppose.
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