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M7STN

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Wanted complete MG Metro Turbo car. Bodywork does not matter. Needed for Turbo conversion for my 2000 W Mini Cooper Sportspack. Must be in excellent running order and preferably lowish miles. Any spec.

Preferably located in Scotland

Email me at SMorgan4@inverurie.oilfield.slb.com


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Somewhere around Swindon

might be worth giving this guy an email to see if its still around *wink*
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mg-metro-turbo_W0QQi...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead !


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Ric

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imho, you'd do better off building up your own lump, at least you'll know the history of it. Doesn't have to be high spec and can be done for a sensible amount of cash.


M7STN

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Thanks guys, I think I would prefer to have a complete car in running order to source the bits from then rebuild the engine completely to a decent spec. How much would you think it would cost to do the conversion on a mint 2000 W Mini Cooper? All I would have to spend money on would be the engine and the conversion. Thanks


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if youv e got a 2000 cooper then sureley you wouldnt want to put 20 yr old knackered engine in it would you? so youre best off building a new one and this cost depends on what spec and bananas youre after. then theres the gearbox to think about.

also i doubt youd wanna cut up youre bulkhead would you so youd be best off with a mirage kit imho.

i wouldnt want to mess with a mint 2000 cooper you reduce the price. make sure you keep the original engine and make sure every thing can be put back to standard

how about a supercharger kit? do a search for it.*smiley*

edit; lol at wolfie

Edited by Carl on 9th Aug, 2006.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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What's that song buzzing round in my head....... Dreeeaaammm Dream Dream Dream Dream.

Sorry but you will not find a 20 year old car with a knackered body and a mint engine, especially a Metro Turbo.

Fastest 998 mini in the world? 13.05 1/4 mile 106mph



On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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If you want an engine in a condition suitable to make a worthy transmplant, then budget on something between 1250 and 1500, and find a nice classic low-mileage turbo metro - maybe on a MG collectors forum - purchase that and rip the heart out of it and send the rest to the crushers.







If you did choose this option, then expect a serious backlash from the classic metro / mg brigade though!

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M7STN

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I don't want a mint engine. I just want a good starting ground. The engine will be getting a full rebuilt and a few extras added. I'm not really to worried about cutting the bulkhead and welding in a box. It will be getting proffessionally done and the engine bay repainted in the factory colour. I also have a 1340cc Mini 30 with a richard longman engine and the shell was built by the MetroMini Centre when they were about. The Yellow one they had.


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i have a short block and box that was running fine but ideally needs a build

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Why wolfie...you should have your name as Fuckfaceshithead !


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To be honest you do not need a complete metro turbo, the only specific parts you need are the manifolds, the turbo, the carburettor and the plenum chamber. For everything else either A+ 1275cc engine parts are a good base to start with, e.g. block, head, etc

In other cases you can buy parts that are uprated from standard anyway, e.g. camshaft.
Some parts can be bought new at reasonable cost e.g. fuel pressure reg
And If you have an MPi mini you can use its fuel tank, pump, filter, and fuel lines.

Buying a complete Metro in my opinion is just not the most cost effective way to do it any more, in the days when you could buy a complete Metro turbo from the scrapyard for £80 (I did this, 7 years ago) then fine, but these days, £400 is better spent collecting the specific turbo parts, and then using a £50 knackered Metro engine for the castings you need machining anyway.


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On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


M7STN

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Thanks for the reply. I would rather have a full engine and box with the turbo and ancillaries. Thanks anyway.


M7STN

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Would it be possible to use my block which has done 39k miles? I thought the turbos had uprated bottom ends and different pistons? I would be using a Jack Knight SCCR box which I had spare when I changed the yellow Minis engine and box.


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On 09/08/2006 21:43:28 M7STN said:

Would it be possible to use my block which has done 39k miles? I thought the turbos had uprated bottom ends and different pistons? I would be using a Jack Knight SCCR box which I had spare when I changed the yellow Minis engine and box.


Yes you could use your block, but to be honest I'd have thought you'd be better off flogging it complete as a low mileage MPI engine and buying a shagged £50 metro engine as suggested before.

As for the "uprated bottom end" that is not really correct, the bearings were stronger than equivalent metro engines when the turbo engines were first launched in 1982, however in about 1985 all the 1275cc engines moved to the "turbo" style bearings. So any block from 1985 on is just as "strong". Different pistons is correct but any that have been in a Metro engine since new will be fucked and ready for the skip by now, so you'll be buying new ones anyway.

I really think you need to do some reading on this subject. Start by reading the "Metro Turbo Engine Myths" post in the "Beginners" section.


On 29th Nov, 2016 madmk1 said:


On 28th Nov, 2016 Rob Gavin said:
I refuse to pay for anything else


Like fuel 😂😂


M7STN

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OK thanks for your help. I know I'm not very clued up on this engine but I'm keen to learn. I fancy my Mini being a bit different to all the other coopers with the 90bhp kit which really produces 70bhp. I don't want a NA engine because my yellow one is and I fancy a change. None of my Minis are in daily use but the Cooper does get used reguarly.

Edited by M7STN on 9th Aug, 2006.


M7STN

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Where is the mirage kit available from? Also who would you recommend buying parts from ie pistons, valves etc? I've heard Avonbar are good. Cheers


M7STN

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I have been in contact with mirage motorsport. I think I am going for the mirage kit with the T2 turbo


M7STN

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Sounds good, i think I'll go for that aswell. i think I'm going to get the full spec to start with. I like doing things in a oner. Thanks for your help guys!


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Don't let me disuade you from the turbo route if thats what you really want, but

Vmax scart do a supercharger conversion which they will fit, for a road car, especily a sports pack I personaly think this a good option.

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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Ric

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and there's still not that many of them about.

If you want to build a turbo mini, i'd flog the cooper to fund yourself a complete build of an older mini. Will save you a the MOT hassles as well.


M7STN

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"Don't let me disuade you from the turbo route if thats what you really want, but

Vmax scart do a supercharger conversion which they will fit, for a road car, especily a sports pack I personaly think this a good option. "

Sounds like a plan!!!


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I agree with the others in that buying a complete car for breaking isnt the best option, you can get pretty much all the worthwhile turbo parts for around £150 if your patient and keep your eyes peeled.

"Turbo's make torque, and torque makes fun"

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