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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
11th Sep, 2006 at 09:27:26am
Ive recently taken apart my diff and reassembled, but there was no gasket between the gear box case and back plate, just sealant.
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![]() 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
11th Sep, 2006 at 09:49:49am
yes, some gearboxes had no gasket
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
11th Sep, 2006 at 09:53:19am
Ah nice one at least I don't need to take it apart again.
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60 Posts Member #: 651 Advanced Member Rugby, UK |
11th Sep, 2006 at 11:33:55am
It's pretty std to put the gearbox casing on with silicon gasket sealant nowadays, but you should use paper gaskets for all other mating surfaces... |
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Site Admin ![]() 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
11th Sep, 2006 at 05:46:59pm
On 11/09/2006 11:33:55 Guessworks said:
It's pretty std to put the gearbox casing on with silicon gasket sealant nowadays, but you should use paper gaskets for all other mating surfaces... WRONG. Early boxes using studs and nuts use a gasket, later boxes from approx 1984 onwards using bolts do not use a gasket.(On the main diff split housing) And you supposedly supply rebuilt gearboxes?????? Edited by Tom Fenton on 11th Sep, 2006.
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
11th Sep, 2006 at 06:08:16pm
I read this as 'gearbox casing' ie - onto the engine? Even that i thought sounded bizarre?
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60 Posts Member #: 651 Advanced Member Rugby, UK |
11th Sep, 2006 at 06:45:07pm
On 11/09/2006 17:46:59 Tom Fenton said:
On 11/09/2006 11:33:55 Guessworks said:
It's pretty std to put the gearbox casing on with silicon gasket sealant nowadays, but you should use paper gaskets for all other mating surfaces... WRONG. Early boxes using studs and nuts use a gasket, later boxes from approx 1984 onwards using bolts do not use a gasket.(On the main diff split housing) And you supposedly supply rebuilt gearboxes?????? Apologies, said gearbox casing when I meant Diff housing, and yes pretty much all rebuilt gearboxes are now built using sealant, basically because it provides a better seal on the diff housing over the paper, but as said, paper should be used on all other, especially the end plates... |
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
11th Sep, 2006 at 07:13:39pm
This is even more confusing - Surely you're not suggesting that on an older transmission that originally used a paper gasket, that you can just use RTV or whatever sealant instead of the gasket?????
Edited by turbodave16v on 11th Sep, 2006. On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
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5795 Posts Member #: 80 AFRacing LTD Newbury, Berks |
11th Sep, 2006 at 08:11:52pm
I was informed that if there were gaskets there original you used gaskets!
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![]() 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
11th Sep, 2006 at 11:15:48pm
my gearbox is a mixed bag of nuts, i couldnt tell you whether it had gaskets orginally, and the casing has been changed.
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5795 Posts Member #: 80 AFRacing LTD Newbury, Berks |
11th Sep, 2006 at 11:20:47pm
The pre load on the diff will be wrong if you get the gasket on the diff side covers (output shafts).
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![]() 2521 Posts Member #: 417 Post Whore Swindon |
11th Sep, 2006 at 11:21:28pm
bolt the diff housing on with no diff,then check it for roundness
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
11th Sep, 2006 at 11:25:45pm
On 11/09/2006 23:15:48 Nic said:
is there actually any disadvantage of using gaskets to hold on a gasketless casing, or vice versa? If you use gaskets on a 'sealer' box, then your diff bearings are basically loose in the housing - and basically a fuggup waiting to happen. In short - the hole is round, or it's not round. It's easy to check; but you must always check it nonetheless... On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
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![]() 9327 Posts Member #: 59 First mini turbo to get in the 12's & site perv Herefordshire |
11th Sep, 2006 at 11:40:29pm
eek,im scared now
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
12th Sep, 2006 at 12:37:09pm
The type im using uses bolts instead of studs to hold the diff casing together.
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
12th Sep, 2006 at 03:49:04pm
On 12/09/2006 12:37:09 matty said:
The type im using uses bolts instead of studs to hold the diff casing together. In that case - it is very likely to be that between the gearbox maincase and the differential cover you will use sealant. On 12/09/2006 12:37:09 matty said:
The one ive just taken off has studs and DOES use a gasket! That is also to be expected - most of the time if it is studs - it should have a gasket. On 12/09/2006 12:37:09 matty said:
Dave-I am talking about the plate the holds the diff bearings in. Seems to be a disconnect here - I'm now thinking you mean the diff side-covers, but you describe it as 'the plate' ??? The diff side covers need paper gaskets no matter what. You take the thickness of the gasket into account when shimming the diff. You can't just use the haynes assumption for gasket thickness unless using a Rover gasket set however, as the gaskets vary a fair bit in thickness. Don't forget to include the O-ring in the recess around the selector detent either... On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
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Site Admin ![]() 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
12th Sep, 2006 at 03:51:48pm
On 12/09/2006 15:49:04 TurboDave said:
Don't forget to include the O-ring in the recess around the selector detent either... No, definately do not forget this, or you will curse your newly built mini engine for weeks for leaving pools of oil on your garage floor, only to realise it was your stupid fault for leaving the o-ring out. Guess who did this not so long ago......
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Forum Mod 10980 Posts Member #: 17 ***16*** SouthPark, Colorado |
12th Sep, 2006 at 04:11:13pm
I did it in my very first ever gearbox build. You're not the first or last i'm sure!!! On 17th Nov, 2014 Tom Fenton said:
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
12th Sep, 2006 at 05:03:46pm
Yea ive made sure the side plates have paper gaskets and an O ring.
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Site Admin ![]() 15302 Posts Member #: 337 Fearless Tom Fenton, Avon Park 2007 & 2008 class D winner & TM legend. |
12th Sep, 2006 at 05:38:33pm
It sounds like a few too many emergency starts have taken their toll! However axial clearance on the primary gear wouldn't usually cause an oil leak past the seal, although it is not great news for the life expectancy of your drop gears!
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![]() 8297 Posts Member #: 408 Turbo Love Palace Fool Aylesbury |
12th Sep, 2006 at 07:56:02pm
its been in the car 2 1/2years untouched and done over 8000miles at 12psi. its done well!
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