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Just fitted a sensor this morning(top fork nut of a kawasaki fit's a treat)

Wired it up to a multimeter as I have no gauge yet.

I'm getting .50 to .75 volts out of it(after a couple of miles drive to make sure its hot) so I take it that is a bit rich

Think it should be .45 can anyone confirm*oh well*

Forgot to mention my sensor is from a rover 620? out of the elbow on a t25 it's a bosch 4 wire

Edited by Dangerous on 17th Sep, 2006.


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Paul S

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There's a link here to a graph.



I'd say you were running about right. You want to see about 0.1 to 0.3 under WOT.

EDIT: I'm wrong - should be 0.8 as evo said.

Edited by Paul S on 17th Sep, 2006.

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no, you want to see around .8v under WOT *wink*

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Well thats 2 opinions

I turned the mixture half turn weaker and now get
.4 idle
.5/.6 normal driving
.7 flatout up hill
0/.2 no throttle down hill

This is with a std bdd needle so I take it I don't need to fit the 10psi one,as that will make it richer

Do I need to go for the heavy spring or thicker oil


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Aha I see
wideband sensor more voltage=leaner
narrowband more voltage=richer

mines a narrow so about right till R/R time


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Found the info now guys

AIR/FUEL RATIO
GAUGE READING
14.7/1 0.50v
14.6/1 0.60v
14.5/1 0.70v
14.2/1 0.80v
13.5/1 0.85v
13.2/1 0.90v
13.0/1 0.92v
12.5/1 0.94v
12.0/1 0.95v

Happy turbocharged engine likes to be above 0.92v under the load.


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wheres the rest of it? theres nowt below Stoich!!!!

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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narrowband sensors are accurate at 14.7:1

Thats as good as they get. If you are using them as a tuning tool, be very very aware that they are very innaccurate anywhere else.

their response is very non-linear, making it very difficult to use them reliably.

So tread with caution, or be sensible and buy a wideband.

Circa 0.9v should be ok on boost, but given they arent accurate/repeatable up there, its still not 100% safe.

Dont know where Dangerous got those readings, but they dont sound right to me.

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Found them here
http://www.zeitronix.com/questions/O2questions.htm


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By their comparison, 0.94v = 13.0:1...

To suggest a turbo engine will be happy around that, isnt quite true.

A turbo engine will melt pistons at 13.0:1 It is far too lean to even think about using.

That said, their voltage shouldnt be far off, I totally disagree with their suggested AFR's to match the voltage.

But pressure and sensor temp does affect the output voltage by quite a bit.

Buy a wideband.

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13.0:1 is rich though???

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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On 22/09/2006 13:41:48 Mini Sprocket said:

13.0:1 is rich though???


thats what I thought


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Up to you.

I would never run a turbocharged engine at an accurately measured 13.0:1 AFR

I may just tempt fate at 12.0:1, but even that is pushing it a little for safety.

11.5:1 for me.

If it was normally aspirated, then 13.0:1 would be fine.

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