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where is the best place to put this, i would of thought as close to the turbo outlet as possible

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Ideally as close to the exhaust valves, but thats rarely practical..

Just at the turbo exit is fine.

I wouldnt reccomend before the turbo.....as if the probe breaks off for whatever reason, it tends to wreck your turbo too :(

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sorry to dig up an old thread, but got a few questions

Do they tend to break off much Stevie?

Still learning about egts atm but I wouldnt have thought it would be of any use after the turbo? as wont the turbo take different amounts of heat from the exhaust gas depending on its efficiency, boost etc? so comaring readings from other builds/setups would be futile?

or would dangerous temps be so obvious that it doesnt make much difference?

also, if you were to place it on the manifold, would it be better to place it on an outer branch?
as not being siamesed the reading would be more like a conventional engine?

And lastly, if anyone on here has done this, where did you place yours, and what sort of reading are you getting?

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ideally you'd need one in each branch of the manifold. I did this with my engine when it was 5 port and we ran it on mapped ignition for the first time. I'll dig a piccie out soon. The probes only break if you abuse/bend them, they only need to poke down into the port a little way.
On my n/a engine we were getting un-even temps from the middle cylinders to the outers, a few degs extra advance on the niddle cylinders grought the temps into line and pulled 4/5 bhp extra from the engine.

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On 24th of Feb, 2007 at 11:40am johnK said:
ideally you'd need one in each branch of the manifold. I did this with my engine when it was 5 port and we ran it on mapped ignition for the first time. I'll dig a piccie out soon. The probes only break if you abuse/bend them, they only need to poke down into the port a little way.
On my n/a engine we were getting un-even temps from the middle cylinders to the outers, a few degs extra advance on the niddle cylinders grought the temps into line and pulled 4/5 bhp extra from the engine.

JK


Interesting stuff! back when the MS code was being thought about, i posted about a test Dave Walker did on a CVH running different timing on the inner and out cylinders,

I thought this might be a useful addition the MS code if it wasn't too much hassle to add (probably would be though).

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Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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theres a pic of the egt probes in position on my n/a engine in one of my folders---can't figure out how to do the link - sorry!

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On 24th of Feb, 2007 at 11:05am joeybaby83 said:
sorry to dig up an old thread, but got a few questions

Do they tend to break off much Stevie?

Still learning about egts atm but I wouldnt have thought it would be of any use after the turbo? as wont the turbo take different amounts of heat from the exhaust gas depending on its efficiency, boost etc? so comaring readings from other builds/setups would be futile?

or would dangerous temps be so obvious that it doesnt make much difference?

also, if you were to place it on the manifold, would it be better to place it on an outer branch?
as not being siamesed the reading would be more like a conventional engine?

And lastly, if anyone on here has done this, where did you place yours, and what sort of reading are you getting?


Generally, no. But a few head gasket incidents took their tool.... And it only needs to break once.
Although it depends how expensive your turbo is, whether it matters or not !!!

Ideally you want the probe as close the the valve as possible, so you are getting a good indication of EGT's at the valve.
After all, its burnt valves you want to prevent !

I think some can handle around 900degC, but anything over that can be pushing things a little. Depends on the valves too.
Not sure what sort of temps a turbine wheel can handle, but Id think idealy you dont want that over 1000degC either.

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the newer probes handle 1000 deg c indefinately and short bursts of 1200deg c

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nogin, what do you mean by newer probes? presuming you dont me the k type?

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Any body ever tried something like a PT100? Much faster to react than a K type and more robust too.

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Nope...I have recently aquired some larger diameter K type probes....

I had only used the 3mm or so ones before. Thicker may be a little slower to respond ??? but no doubt be a lot stronger and less inclined to break.

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