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Carl

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as above really. over the winter ill be tubbing my rear arches so ill need quite big arches to cover them im thinking about putting me clubby on 13 inch deep dish minilights as i rekn they just look right on clubbys. but i dont want to spend loads of money on a set and find out it were a mistake.

surely a 13 inch rim with a deep offset will have the same caraistics(sp?) as a 10inch deep dish rim?

opinions and experiences please.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


Rob H

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There are two reasons why I will be converting to 10s over the winter:

10" Inch rims are lighter, and therefore there will be less un-sprung weight on the suspension., which should help keep the wheels on the road.

10” rims have a larger profile tyre, which in should help with traction.

:EDIT: I stand to be corrected

Edited by Rob H on 15th Oct, 2006.

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smaler wheels also put less strain on the gearbox


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i have 10's becuase ive always wanted them, however i personally prefer clubmans with 13's, possibly something like a 13x6 would be good in my opinion


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On 15th of Oct, 2006 at 06:56pm British Open Classic said:
There are two reasons why I will be converting to 10s over the winter:

10" Inch rims are lighter, and therefore there will be less un-sprung weight on the suspension., which should help keep the wheels on the road.

10” rims have a larger profile tyre, which in should help with traction.

:EDIT: I stand to be corrected


why do you sand corrected?

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


Rob H

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Whilst what I post is true to the best of my knowledge, there are alot of people on this site that know a fair bit more than me.

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Carl

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but know one else had said anything to contradick you, ive missed something here. lol.

all opinions are greatly appriciated

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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Why you should put your 13" wheels in a skip

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I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



Carl

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why was the above caused by 13inch wheels?

cool pic by the way(i hope no one was hurt tho)

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl.


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10s look better. *happy*


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On 15th of Oct, 2006 at 07:52pm Scruffy said:
Why you should put your 13" wheels in a skip


exactly my sentiments,
over the years when i was sprinting i,ve lost count of the minis running 13" wheels that ended up on there roof,
and i never saw one runnig 10s

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i had 5x12s on mine, set up properly, tracking, cambers, ballenced etc. went to 6x13s and it handles hell of a lot better. both sets had dunlps sps on. think its just down to personal choice


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I run 6X12's with 165/55 R12 - Yokohama A048 on my Clubman and IMO they look the right size for the car, and are just big enough for the calipers i have used.

Down to personal taste i guess.


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On 15th of Oct, 2006 at 07:56pm Carl said:
why was the above caused by 13inch wheels?

cool pic by the way(i hope no one was hurt tho)


Just my pride but the accident was a combination of factors all listed above in other people's posts

On 5th Sep, 2011 Vegard said:
I stand corrected. You should know *wink*



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I use to run 10's then went to 12's then went to 13's

I'm now back on 10's and would never change to anything else.

IMO I think mini's look really good with 13's, but just don't like the way they handle.

Lets be honest, the mini suspension desing is pretty antique now, but it was designed to work with 10" wheels and a high profile tye. On a modern car low profile tyres may work, but on a mini I think they don't. I'm not an engineer so don't know why, but I have tried all 3 choices, and came back to 10's

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my mate in his 1380 with 13x7" superlights doesnt stand a chance against me in my 998 with 6x10" wheels on on a twisty bit of road, he carnt belive it!
i reckon 10s look better imo!

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welshdan

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what engine he got?either he cant drive, his engine is a load of crap or the suspension is all to shit on it...


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On 15th of Oct, 2006 at 11:15pm josh_tacon said:
my mate in his 1380 with 13x7" superlights doesnt stand a chance against me in my 998 with 6x10" wheels on on a twisty bit of road, he carnt belive it!
i reckon 10s look better imo!

josh


Maybe he should get his suspension sorted, or he is a shit driver.

I well setup 13" wheeled car will be as fast as anything. However, a 10" wheeled car will be much more nippy, and forgiving. It's easier do drive fast with 10" wheels, as they warn you a bit before you "go".

I'm all 10" wheels, don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate to drive a 13" wheeled Mini. However, a 13" car with a 1380 is not slower than a 998 with 10" because of the wheels. Also, there are different types of 10" wheels. A standard 75 850 with 3,5X10 wheels and 145R10 tyers will be a bit slower than a slick shot Miglia.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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I have zero experiance of 10s. What I would say is that it took a long time to get our car to work with 13s, but it does. The reason I stuck it in the wall was that the car was working so well that I was really pushing the limits.

I think the problem is that people stick 13s on and don't do enough to the suspension setup to get them to work, but it can be done.

I use 12s on the road, I think that these are ideal (pity you can't get slicks for 12" wheels).

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On 2nd Jan, 2013 fastcarl said:

the design shows a distinct lack of imagination,
talk about starting off with a clean sheet of paper, then not bothering to fucking draw on it,lol

On 20th Apr, 2012 Paul S said:
I'm mainly concerned about swirl in the runners caused by the tangential entry.


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On 16th of Oct, 2006 at 08:07am wil_h said:


I think the problem is that people stick 13s on and don't do enough to the suspension setup to get them to work, but it can be done.



I cant agree with that more, its all to do with settings, springs and dampers. You dont have to change the fundamentals to get it to work. There are, as the above case shows, examples of working configurations using 13" wheels. Dan webster', posts occasionally on finity, car is a good example of this using an optimised suspension setup with 13" wheels.

I've seen the future and tbh its Pie


JT

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hes a bit of a crap driver imo and i dont think it is set up although everything is adjustable on it i reckon that the previous owner just through it all together.
mine was standerd suspension set up.
then as soon as a stright come up he would go past me like i was still!! lol
i agree with Will H and andeh about the settin up etc.

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Because I love S reverse rims! Can't get a better looking wheel in my opinion. Well rosepetals maybe but they're 10's too.

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Far more complex than just 3 inches of diameter.

All things being equal a 175 50 will have a broader footprint than a 165 70 so more grip in corners. However low profile tyres, having less side wall to deflect, won't roll as progressively as fatter tyres so you'll go from lots of grip to no grip quicker!

Surely the main reason for bigger wheels is they fit over bigger brakes, for Min's that's a good arguement for 12 inchers.

13 50's are pretty much the same overall diameter as 10 inchers (actually less than 12 65's) so they shouldn't alter overall gear ratios. Yes, heavier wheels will put greater loads on your gearbox. But for all wheel / tyre combos the maximum torque will be limited by your tyres spinning first.


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Have had a little experience with 10's 12's and 13's, on three different minis, all with standard set ups, one mini being my own and two others being friends. The mini with the 10's was an 850cc, had sod all ponies under the bonnet but around town my friend always had the edge on handling over me with my 12's (didnt help that the driver was a nutter!!), another friend was running 13's which I found after drivin it ( and also following him) to be quite unforgiving, being more easy to switch ends (appreciate tire choice is a big factor, etc) when I rebuilt my mini in '04 I fitted a fully adjustable setup all round, I have also spent numerous hours fettling to find the setting to suit me, and my driving, and to be honest I find the setup spot on on 12's with yoko A539's. I THINK 12'S ARE A GOOD COMPROMISE! My turbo build that I'm now undertaking I want to put on 10's as it is going to be mk1 track racer themed. I am now very interested to find out how it will behave.


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just thought id throw this in .. most people run 175/50/13's on 7" wide rims. there stretched, and the tyres become stiff and unforgiving, i moved over to 195/45/13's and instantly the car felt like it had some "give" in the sidewall, less tramlining and more forgiving, i can only put it down to the fact that the skinny 175's are far to thin for the rims most people run them on.

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