Anyone put a Bini blower on a Mini?
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As above really.

Thinking about putting a Bini Eaton M45 at the front of the engine, instead of at the back like the Vmax kit.

Keeping the space at the back for the turbo!

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Yes i'm sure they have but not got any details, but TD knows about the eaton blowers. be the one to ask.

Edited by Miniwilliams on 25th Nov, 2006.

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Well, I've been playing with spreadsheets and turbo/blower maps.

It seems that the best way to get 30 psi plus boost is by turbo/intercooler no. 1/blower/intercooler no. 2 to engine.

Lots of torque at bottom end due to the blower and good maximum power.

Potentially 200hp from a 998, as long as you could get the engine to hold together

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

do you remember them old fashion bicycle lights which had a dynamo that you flicked onto the tyre when you needed it, well i rekon you could fix the supercharger onto the rear quarter and put a wheel on it onto your tyre.

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

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Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

I did with a mate :
http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vt&tid=122900

Thanks fab, obviously it does fit.

Was the alternator in the usual place?

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Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

hey axel , peter had 210 out of his 998 ,so they deff take it , i think he put a graph on the 998 page.

Medusa + injection = too much torque for the dyno ..https://youtu.be/qg5o0_tJxYM

where you put alternator?

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Green and White minis have done this on numerous minis with success give em a ring and speak with lance. he can get all the pulleys etc machined to fit.

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Ok, this was my original configuration and is not as great as it sounds. You need to hack a bit off the slam panel and tilt the engine back enough to get it to clear. Look at the ducts, you need to mount it like (oo)|Eng| rather than
(8}|Eng| otherwise you have a piping up problem. This takes up a hell of a lot of space and leaves you with virtually fuck all for your other heat exchangers.

The best way is the old Abingdon (done for a bet) 100hp at the wheels 850cc by sticking the blower in the passenger footwell. As soon as I have built my box, I'll show you some photos when I bung it in.

I have a mate doing a 1960 lighter shell job with a footwell blower and a turbo as well. He's behind me but will probably finish in front. Bastard!

Really, the only way to go is to stick the blower in the footwell and use a BIG intercooler. Since you are boost limited, it seems a shame to rig up your blow through setup and be stuck with a shitty bar and plate TDi intercooler

If you look through the archives, I did a "Supercharging considerations" thing in technical ages ago about my thoughts.

In my opinion, a front mounted blower is a big hassle. It would work with a clubby where you have more room for exchangers, but not a round front. I was wondering if I could get an intercooler shaped like a Mk1 grille. That would be neat. As my cars an old cooper, I don't really like the idea of hanging a huge intercooler out the front like a huge beer belly.

Edited by Hedgemonkey on 25th Nov, 2006.

Bugger off, I'm getting there.

Hedgemonkey,

Your previous post:



Very interesting.

I have a surplus car in the wifes Mini 35. It'll soon need a new front end so I was thinking of a clubby 2 piece front.

I can't be arsed to spend a lot of time and money on it just to patch it up to sell, so we might just use it as a base for a race car.

One intercooler across the front lower panel like the TT2 and the second in the inner wing, opposite side to the rad.

Just playing with ideas at the moment, the road 998 turbo is coming together now and I've started planning the next project.

Other than getting the compression low enough for 30 psi, some decent 998 dished pistons, a 940 head, a strong bottom end, straight cut gears and a decent clutch, this might just work.

I bought a 998 with a DAM 5626 box for a fiver a few weeks ago, so have a base engine.

The appeal is that the torque from the blower will give a better launch. The turbo will then kick in once its rolling.

Edited by Paul S on 25th Nov, 2006.

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Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

My mate has got some crazy ideas about running the system. His is parallel and has some sort of valves. Personally, I'd run it turbo (suck open flap) blower, intercooler. Sucking through the compressor will be too much of a resistance, so a suck valve allows air in, as soon as the turbo starts blowing, it blows through the S/C and the pressure diff goes to 0 and so does the power absorbed :)

I have a mate "Big Mike" who was around in the first days of mini racing..... his car had such a high CR that it needed to be tow started. One of the guys had his radiator in the door with a big kenlowe fan blowing through it. Might be an idea with a lorry intercooler or 2. Especially if you had the blower in the footwell, easy to pipe up and then straight into your blow through carb. Easy eh? hehe

Bugger off, I'm getting there.

Just seen the JonSpeed conversion today at Malvern.

Basically the inlet manifold is a curve from one inlet portt to the other. The charger sits directly on top of this. A solid shaped pipe places the HIF44 directly above the starter position on the bell housing so the filler will draw cold air (unless the heater inlet duct gets in the way .. engine not in a car so hard to tell).

Very simple and clean conversion. Stated about 120BHP from MG spec engine with decomp plate.

I think the belt tensioner is from a Golf GTi 8V and fits to a small bracket hung of the charger.

Obviously there is a bit more bracing between charger and block as I doubt the inlet manifold would suport it for long!!!

The only thing that puts me off is there is no way of intercooling.

Would make a good conversion for somebody wanting a bit more torque rather than brute horses.

About £1200 if I remember right

Sure most people on here could do it for mcuh less and with head mods the decomp palte could be ommited.

Every day is a school day ...........

How fast and how expensive ...... the same question...

the alternator fit just under the blower on a specialy made braket, really did not made as much trouble as we though.

Am i the only one who understands Carl lol.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

I think it's northern humour. It's wasted on many folks clearly LOL!

If you have a look in Mini World Jan 07 page 21 there's a piccy of a Mini with a front mounted blower. I would scan it and post it, but I'm too much of a pikey to by mags these days.

Edited by miniminor63 on 12th Oct, 2007.

my mate al has a jonspeed kit in his mk1, the belt is very close to the bulkhead and the tensioner is not very well positioned in my opinion, there is definitely a need for extra head bracing as you can fit an ultimate head steady, theres deffo room for improvement!