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HI Guys,

I have long been wanting to fit a big front mount intercool and replace my whole grill with it but i came across a neat cooler of s nissan Skyline GTSt single turbo 6 cyl (not sure if you get this spec there or only the GTR the GTS is the GTR's little brother.

well anyway the std cooler from thsi is a great fit in my inner guard

tell me what you think







this is where i got to last night, i need to do a little more cutting and then mount the cooler up and then start to make soem pipe work up.

ill keep you all posted.

Grant

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I was a little concerned until i scrolled down to pic 4 and saw there was now a big hole where once was an inner wing LOL!

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LOL on ya Dave, i might be dumb but not that dumb.

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Wouldn't be the first time I've seen an IC hard up against a panel ...LOL.

From experience is there enough of a pressure drop into the wheel arch to encourage reasonable flow through the IC mounted there. Not dissing anybody, far from it just curious to see if it has been successfully done before????????

What about protection from debris thrown up from the wheel? Is it safe there?

Main reason for asking is that I am thinking of putting an oil cooler in a similar position if it's going to be effective enough without a fan (oil filter on remote housing under wheel arch).

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I think some good ducting to the IC is essential to guarentee that you get good flow through it.

Looks good though.

Worst IC install I ever saw was on an Ebay sale. It wasn't so much the position od the IC more that it was in between the airfilter and the turbo, hahaha.

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I was telling a mate about that ebay mini with the "pre cooler" and he started to explain to me how he thought that would still work.

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To be honest , wouldn`t you would be better off putting that at the front ,eg angled in front of the head or above the starter motor for cold air.
I know you may have to cut the bonnet , but.
By the time you have soughted the ducting to get enough cold air to it , it still won`t be as efficent as putting near the front full on.
No offense mean`t just an opinion.

I know , i know im sorry , it just makes me grin !!!

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PS . Nice I/C though.....

I know , i know im sorry , it just makes me grin !!!

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hey all,

thanks for the thoughts and i have had them all too dont you worry, i am going to run some sheet duscting to the ic from the grill area so it will get a good airflow directly to it, i may also fit a small fan on the back of it yet just to see if it helps.
as for air flow out of the guard not sure yet we will see how it goes.
as for damage from rocks i dont think it will be too big a problem and if i need to make some sort of guard for it on the inside of the guard well so be it but i dont think so.
i dont want to fit it near the head and i dont want any more holes in the bonnet at all so i am not going to fit it near the head or in that area, as for directly in the front that is what i originally wanted to replace the whole grill with a custom ic which i still may do but i had this cooler for nix so i thought i would try it out and see if it works well enough.
if it does not work i wanted to replace that inner guard as it had too many holes in it as it was so i can weld another one in its place and then fit a front mount and move the oil cooler either down or to where the ic currently is.

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Hey.. That looks familiar!

I'm going the exact same route... Already have the hole chopped out of the wing but my intercooler whilst a very similar shape may be a bit smaller. Its from an Eagle talon (mitsubishi)

But I am a few months away from actually fitting it, so will be watching this thread with interest.



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Hey that looks neat, very nice paint and colour mate,
i did a bit more cutting last night and its all but in place just need to clean up one side and then start on the brackets.
this weekend should see it mounted up with just the pipe work to go.

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On 3rd of Jan, 2007 at 07:22am RogerM said:

From experience is there enough of a pressure drop into the wheel arch to encourage reasonable flow through the IC mounted there. Not dissing anybody, far from it just curious to see if it has been successfully done before????????


British Leyland etc seen fit to mount the cooling radiator in a similar fashion.......Its not ideal, but there must be a reasonable amount of airflow.


And the RHS inner guard is exactly where I mounted my R5 turbo intercooler.
Never had the ability to monitor actual charge temps though, but fitment of the IC, did necessitate huge changes to fuelling requirements.

For a while it was un-ducted, then for another while I tried to build an alloy enclosure do direct air onto it...
It last seen some 9" flexible fan ducting directing air onto it, squished into various shapes.

I never had any debris issues, although it did get a bit dirty on the wheelarch side.

In its most (un)tidy form *happy*, IC highlighted in red circle.

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True about the radiator but if you run without a permenant fan you won't be going far.....

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On 4th of Jan, 2007 at 11:24pm RogerM said:
True about the radiator but if you run without a permenant fan you won't be going far.....


Once above 20/30mph....all the fan is, is a restriction to a cars natural airflow.
Fans are only fitted for slow speed cooling, where natural airflow through the engine compartment wont be present.

For a comparison of the sizes of fan needed, to achieve the amount of airflow seen during normal road speeds.....check out the size of a rolling road cooling fan setup. They are HUGE !!! If a weedy 9/10" fan like a Mini's was sufficient, they wouldnt needto spend thousands on such huge fans.

If they arent huge, find a different rolling road.

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Steve I get what your saying, dead right about the fans at rollers.

The thing is, to my mind at least, as there is no ducting to force the air to go through the radiator on a std Mini, it would be more happy to go round or past than through as that means an unforced 90 deg turn for the air, then without assistance it might not do. If the pressure in the wheel well is low enough it might be drawn through but I have no measurements to prove / disprove that statement. Logic says though that the wheel wells should be a low pressure region.

Surely the same would be true for an IC if not ducted?

Edited by RogerM on 5th Jan, 2007.

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i can see what your both saying, basically i have to try it and see how it goes, if no good i'll dump it.

i will be taking intake temp readings before a final hook up and see what it comes up with then with it all connected and we go from there.
i will keep you all posted.

Grant

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I had my R5 intercooler in the wing untill recently, It did seem to work as you could feel the temp difference between the inlet and outlet pipes.

The only reason I put it there was because I was trying to keep my mini looking stealth and the last thing I wanted was holes in the bonnet!

For maximum power or efficiency I would always opt fo rthe front mount Cooler.

I found there was a lot of build up of dirt on the back of the intercooler, its worth cleaning regularly to keep the airflow unrestricted. *wink*

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On 5th of Jan, 2007 at 01:27pm matty said:
I had my R5 intercooler in the wing untill recently, It did seem to work as you could feel the temp difference between the inlet and outlet pipes.

The only reason I put it there was because I was trying to keep my mini looking stealth and the last thing I wanted was holes in the bonnet!

For maximum power or efficiency I would always opt fo rthe front mount Cooler.

I found there was a lot of build up of dirt on the back of the intercooler, its worth cleaning regularly to keep the airflow unrestricted. *wink*


Same here....after a blast, there wa a noticeable different in in/ex pipe difference. No measurements though.

And no way was I cutting up the front of my car. Everything had to be stealth....
Which is also why I opted for a ERA Mini turbo airbox....no induction noise at all *happy*, although some guys like that kinda thing...

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Hi guys,

bit of an update, i have not quite had the time to spend on the car like i wanted to of late but i have pretty much got it mounted, i just need to finish one bracket and then its good as done, then i have to move onto some duscting (alluminium sheet) and then ensure that the cooler is sealed to the guard so i do not have any escapting air going around and not through the cooler.

I also have to machin 10mm or so off the clutch bearing plunger so the cooler clears it so i can have the cooler square and not out at the bottom (you will understand when you see the pics)




also whhat do you recomend the best pipe to use, alluminium, stailess (but heavy) or Copper pipe?

thanks

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Looks good. Will be interested to see how well it works there but the ducting will help no end!

IMHO stainless is the material for IC hook up pipe because it doesn't draw heat from the enginebay back into the charge much when polished and is sturdier than ali, easier to fabricate for most people too. Ali is good though but needs more support to prevent it getting damaged.

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Stainless is also easier to weld up, as it isnt as fussy.

Strap your intercooler with a couple of large jubilee clips or something.

Plastic crimped header tanks have been known to blow off, hence why I made up alloy tanks for my R5 core.

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Ok I have now fully mounted the cooler in the guard, i have to create some plates to cover the gaps around the cooler so the air does not escape.
and i am picking up the tube and bends tomorrow, so it should take me another week or so to do the pipework.
i had to turn down the clutch plunger end to clear the cooler and it could do with a little more clearance as it has only got about 3mm



out of curiosity does anyone know what their intake temps are with and without a cooler?

Grant

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ok few more pics added now, i have had bugger all time to spend on it lately plus i am also doing the megajolt install too so i have been doing a bit on that too.




hopefully i will finishe the other pipe this week and thne i just have to get the tube welded and polished.

here is my trigger wheel too.


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here are some pics from a few weeks ago, i have not been able to do a hell of a lot on it lately but i should be able to over the next few days.
all pipes are done and fitted up but i have to modify the accel cable bracket as the cold pipe is directly over the original bracket position.
once done it should fire up as i have a huge spark thanks to the megajolt kit, i have not connected the PC to it yet but it has spark




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Does look wicked mate!

Taking shape nicely. :)

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