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 11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
24th Feb, 2007 at 09:05:09pm
What size should I be looking at for a highly tuned turbo engine. 13 or 16 row? On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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 2924 Posts Member #: 95 Post Whore liverpool-on-sea |
24th Feb, 2007 at 09:20:33pm
1d say a 13 row with thermostat will be more than enough. but id say the thermostate is important i use a mocal one from avonbar that fits inbetween the oil filter and housing then has to unions out of it for the cooler. never measured temp tho. some people argue a coolers not needed. no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.
On 28th Nov, 2008 Sprocket said:
Oh now that is a long shaft you have Carl. |
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 966 Posts Member #: 358 Post Whore Snetterton, Norfolk |
24th Feb, 2007 at 09:39:00pm
I don't suppose you know how hot the oil is running atm do u? I agree with Carl that running a stat is important and IMO the smaller one will be more than enough. Even on our f1 cars we run quite small coolers, we run our oil about 90 - 110 celcius max but occasionally 140 gets seen in real hot climates. |
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11046 Posts Member #: 965 Post Whore Preston On The Brook |
24th Feb, 2007 at 09:48:55pm
Dont know how hot it is as i havent built it yet On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be... So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'... On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........ |
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966 Posts Member #: 358 Post Whore Snetterton, Norfolk |
24th Feb, 2007 at 09:55:44pm
Yeah thats the only unknown, having never ran a turbo car! It also depends on the amount of airflow its subjected to. Have you considered an Oil-Water heat exchanger? Then you just need a very good rad. |
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 12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
24th Feb, 2007 at 10:12:08pm
I'd leave it off totaly and see how hot the oil gets.
Edited by Joe C on 24th Feb, 2007. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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Site Admin  8506 Posts Member #: 16 Sold the turbo and seeing what the C20XE can do! Near Lincoln |
24th Feb, 2007 at 11:09:31pm
my miglia runs a 9 row or less (could be a 7) and i've kept the same cooler for my turbo.
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 2521 Posts Member #: 417 Post Whore Swindon |
24th Feb, 2007 at 11:29:14pm
I got a 13 but it don't get much airflow
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 2514 Posts Member #: 1217 I like nice quiet girly Minis Cheltenham, Gloucestershire |
25th Feb, 2007 at 11:52:35am
With a stat it sort of makes sense to have a bigger cooler than you actually need so that the reaction to over temp is too cool the oil very quickly. With the stat obviously it cools only when needed so you avoid the over cooling problem associated with a larger cooler.
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On 27th of Sep, 2007 at 12:45pm Jimster said:
why do you you think I got a girlfriend with small hands? |
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 1666 Posts Member #: 252 Post Whore Sunny suffolk |
25th Feb, 2007 at 03:22:49pm
Im with mini13, run a gauge and see what temps the oil runs at without a cooler. Never used one with mine and as stated above modern oils are more than up to the job. Millers CTV 20w/50 seems to be the oil of choice for many at the moment, im very impressed with it. -MINI CLUBMAN 1380 TURBO- |
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146 Posts Member #: 1092 Advanced Member Yours from the Funny Farm |
25th Feb, 2007 at 03:33:36pm
isnt 13 row a lil on the small side?
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12307 Posts Member #: 565 Carlos Fandango Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex |
25th Feb, 2007 at 03:35:48pm
On 25th of Feb, 2007 at 11:52am RogerM said:
I am supprised your 1380 isn't getting hot Mini13 .... my NA 1380 (122BHP so it is a hot street motor) is running oil temps of around 95 deg C (95 stat fitted) but before it could easily get to 130-135 degs in two laps of Coombe Actually me too, Fair enough i only normally do short journeys, and the engines probably only about 80 odd brake and don't rev the tits off it all the time. but i'd still expect it to get up around 100, but its normally down around 50-70 (sump temp) Also I'm pretty sure the water temp (88deg stat) stays down better after fitting an oil to water cooler, almost as if the oil is cooling the water... Tom the oil needs to be warm (ideally 90-110deg?) to help evaporate off combustion deposits, also cold oil is to thick, it needs to warm up and thin out to get through the oilways, and between the bearings properly, there has to be enough volume of oil flowing to carry heat away. Edited by Joe C on 25th Feb, 2007. On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged... Joe, do you have a photo of your tool? http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.p...9064&lastpost=1 https://joe1977.imgbb.com/ |
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146 Posts Member #: 1092 Advanced Member Yours from the Funny Farm |
25th Feb, 2007 at 03:44:40pm
gotcha mate. thanks
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 2742 Posts Member #: 637 Post Whore Hertfordshire |
25th Feb, 2007 at 03:49:33pm
On 25th of Feb, 2007 at 03:35pm mini13 said:
Tom the oil needs to be warm (ideally 90-110deg?) to help evaporate off combustion deposits, also cold oil is to thick, it needs to warm up and thin out to get through the oilways, and between the bearings properly, there has to be enough volume of oil flowing to carry heat away. and thats why you should never rev a cold engine high! Edited by JT on 25th Feb, 2007. My build thread..
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and i have no idea on output either.
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