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paul wiginton
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Tall order I know, but has anyone got one?
Im starting to get a bit cocerned now that Im getting close to running 12's.

Paul

I seriously doubt it!


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Paul!!!!! What are you thinking???

The weight, the weight man


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I know Nic, but Im getting scared since ive seen so many bad crashes on YouTube.
But if I fit a cage, I can lose that weight by making alloy boot floor, parcel shelf, rear bulkhead, bottom dash rail, front wings and front panel.
Paul

I seriously doubt it!


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tart!

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i dont know how your budget is, but ive always said ill get a cage when i hit the 12's

i was thinking about getting a t45 simple-ish affair made up, not a jimster style climbing frame


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Thats exactly what Ive been thinking Nic. I am hoping to hit the 12's this year.

JohnK, havent you got a cage?

Paul

I seriously doubt it!


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Hi Paul - no I lost the cage out of mine back in 2000/2001 - too heavy!

lots of people aiming for the 12's this year - I may have to try and join you!

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so if you do a 13.01 you dont need a cage but if you do a 12.99 run you do need a cage hmmm

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Paul - speak to Jim and get the contact for where his cage came from; IIRC the base section was a T45, which was added to (in lots of ways) buy OwensFabrication. I remember being amazed at how light a handful of T45 tubes were when I picked them up with one hand.

I doubt you'll find anything that'd suit your (lightweight) needs easilly.

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It depends really whether it is an fia approved jobbie that you need or whether its your safetu you are more worried about. The msa blue book specifies a cold drawn seamless t45. If you fancy doing one yourself then Elmdon Metals sell the specific approved roll cage stuff then you just need to bend and shape as appropriate!


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Does the blue book now say T45? Used to give two types T45 at one section / wall thickness and CDS at a different section / wall thickness.

Been a while since I have raced though so could be well out of date...

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On 12th of Mar, 2007 at 08:04pm paul wiginton said:
I know Nic, but Im getting scared since ive seen so many bad crashes on YouTube.
But if I fit a cage, I can lose that weight by making alloy boot floor, parcel shelf, rear bulkhead, bottom dash rail, front wings and front panel.
Paul


STEEL body shell as in "ferrous" not fookin alluminium lol.

now where did a i put dave hollis's phone number

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christ why would anyone want to speak to him on the phone

his constant mumbling over the P.A for a weekend are more than enough for me over the year (no offence if your reading this)


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LOL. Atleast theres no fooking plastic,
Who said Id be in C class anyway?

On 13th of Mar, 2007 at 10:10pm fastcarl said:



On 12th of Mar, 2007 at 08:04pm paul wiginton said:
I know Nic, but Im getting scared since ive seen so many bad crashes on YouTube.
But if I fit a cage, I can lose that weight by making alloy boot floor, parcel shelf, rear bulkhead, bottom dash rail, front wings and front panel.
Paul


STEEL body shell as in "ferrous" not fookin alluminium lol.

now where did a i put dave hollis's phone number

Edited by paul wiginton on 13th Mar, 2007.

I seriously doubt it!


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hook line and sinker, reel him in lol,

and itds glasss rienforced plastic if you dont mind, but i have alloy doors, so feck off,lol

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BTW, i had a quick look in my blue book and couldnt find any mention of T45 specificly, was late on though and didnt look for long.

Just cold drawn steel (of certain dimensions and i think 350MPA)


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T45 is the pre-requisite for FIA cages -you'll find it in the book - there are other materials avaialble now which are for all intents and purposes T45 - but as they don't have T45 in the title it can't be used!

Paul - why don't you get Carl to do one in Ti for you - as you aren't going racing etc?

cheers

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As I understand it T45 for FIA approved events and CDS is ok for most UK events run by the MSA.

There are certain ratings for loads at certain points as well IIRC.

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Alluminium , better than nothing,

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