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any problems with building a k head engine on a a-series as opposed to a+? any downsides etc? ive fallen over a block and was going to start building, but thought i'd better check that there are no downsides to using it as a base!!!!! Are the cranks interchangable, as i dont rate my chances of finding a 'a' crank in useable nick!!?

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one more thing, anyone know of the top of their head what drive the turbo oil pumps are? i cant remeber.......

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Oil pumps are slot drive.

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I'd use an A+ block personally, its a better, stiffer, block to use as a basis.


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On 15th of Aug, 2007 at 10:20pm Tom Fenton said:
I'd use an A+ block personally, its a better, stiffer, block to use as a basis.


I know at least two on this forum that think otherwise, myself and another very distinct member living in the same place:)


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On 15th of Aug, 2007 at 10:20pm Tom Fenton said:
I'd use an A+ block personally, its a better, stiffer, block to use as a basis.


Do you know this for a fact, or is it another myth? I've been told that stiffening ribs are there to compensate for inferior iron.

Also, cranks are interchangeable. Everything is apart form the dizzy.

Edited by Vegard on 16th Aug, 2007.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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A+ blocks are defintely better, it would have been completely mad to create a new block just for material downgrade ( we talk about iron).
I'm rebuilding a block, which is a first A+ block, gearboxe have plenty of play and wear,which is a good indice of milage and the block just need a set of rings and camshaft bearings.. a pre A+ block at this stage would need at min rebore, and this have been constated many many times

ps:what about pistons Veg?


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I'm with the nordish on this one,

all the high milage A blocks i have torn down seem to have hal less wear than a similar A+.

I suspect S blocks may be a better grade again, as they seem unduly heavy compared to Non S blocks.



On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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Fab, forgot about it. Will take action tonight if that was what you meant :)

Look at the A+ rods. They're bloody shite compared to the A ones apart from weight.

On 13th Jul, 2012 Ben H said:
Mine gets in the way a bit, but only when it is up. If it is down it does not cause a problem.



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*wink* veg
bloody en16 shite they are! (I store a set of "good guy rods" for my project engine) but they can take quasi any punishment that the gears straight or not can't (I've raced them up to 8500 with three non owner guys (see what I mean) for two complete days and they did survive very well
Not agree with wear. I've seen many high milage A+ blocks with honing marks in them, and this include mg mety ones, and this is not the case with innocenti/1275gt blocks.regarding S bloc... if only I could have one *crying*
regarding the topic, if I only had a pre A+ block , I wouldn't care about all that stuff, quality oil is the point.If I had or could have easily an A+ one unstead of the A one I would go for it


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I should metion I've seen A+ block with not much wear...

they had liners.

On 28th Aug, 2011 Kean said:
At the risk of being sigged...

Joe, do you have a photo of your tool?



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I wouldnt say the ribs were there to increase the strangth but rather retain the strength where they have removed metal to save on weight, metal and ultimately production cost.

Visard warns of gringing A+ blocks to clear long stroke cranks, you will likely find fresh air in places.

Dont thingk the grade of cast iron is that different. how can you compare wear on bores between different engines when the chances of you knowing these engines full history is remote, different oils, running in and driving conditions as well as fuels.

I will say this, the late, unleaded engines wear quicker, no lead and less zzdp addatives.

As far as im concerned, block rigidity is in the casting design. Open tappet chest blocks looking to be a little on the flexible side?

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........


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Another thing that makes them flexible is the variation in flange thickness facing the box. The S blocks are thinner here, and do also have the tapper chest covers...


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I know quite a lot of subaru drivers and they tend to add sleeves to the block to strengthen it a bit. What struck me as odd is that I don't read alot about sleeves in A+ blocks?


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On 17th Aug, 2007 Tazzy said:
I know quite a lot of subaru drivers and they tend to add sleeves to the block to strengthen it a bit. What struck me as odd is that I don't read alot about sleeves in A+ blocks?


Then you have not been using the search function correctly*happy*

On 26th Oct, 2004 TurboDave16v said:
Is it A-Series only? I think it should be...
So when some joey comes on here about how his 16v turbo vauxhall is great compared to ours, he can be given the 'bird'...


On 26th Oct, 2004 Tom Fenton said:
Yep I agree with TD........

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