Front mounted supercharger set-up.
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Found this,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-SUPERCHARGER-SU...VQQcmdZViewItem

First one i've seen.

I drill holes in everything..!

thats an interesting setup,

Add an intercooler and some pipes that arn't 45 deg welded joints an that could be a cracker.

not sure about some of the add description though....

Stroked crank, maybe i guess but ''d be suprised.

Braided oil feed hose, to feed what?

I think people get a bit carried away when placing adverts.

But yeah. Could be improved.

Food for thought.

I drill holes in everything..!

The amazing thing is that he's got it in there with the dizzy in place.

Room for an intercooler below it.

That DV does not look big enough for a blow through setup.

I wonder if the bonnet closes properly.

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

Oh yeah,

well, bin the dizzy and jot it for a start!!

Sod changing the plugs though...

not buying his reason for sale tho. hmmm

no longer a series, but still 1.3 turbo.

Your not buying engine either!

Back once again like a renegade master

hello im boz :from sunny blackpool LOL
im the suker that bought this frount mounted supercharged engine of ebay.
well were do i start.. HELP.
i started fitting this engine at the end of october , one week went to two weeks and so on. ( you now how it gos ) ive been to mini sport and had the van on the rolling road twice, and still i carnt get it all to start with the key and run...
i look back now and wish ide never had that bottle of red wine that night. LOL.
The first time i took it up to mini sport that very nice man Rob took one look at it and said . WELL . I should of cut my loses there and then, he tryed for 3hrs and 25 mins to get it started. no luck with all the pipe work in place.
As soon as the pipes were disconected
we had life (well it started) After a lot of head scratching Rob and another couple of chaps from the workshop decided that the pipe work was just too long with too meany 90 degree bends in it. ( ill post a couple of pics soon )
So my next job was shorten the pipes.
Ok looking throu all my old copies of mini world i spoted a set up the same as mine. ( thank God for that ) well almost it was injection. this gave me a nice boost so off we set to have all the pipe work re done. what a nightmere, when it was done the new pipe stood 8" up in the air ( i felt like crying ) £130 and it all had to be re done. Cut a long story short another £40 it was looking good. So back to mini sport, now there was too mutch air even with a custom throtle body conected to the manifold working on vacum. We all decided to fit the carb to the front of the charger.
back home and after calling a few favers in i had all the new pipe work done for a couple of bacon buttys and a few milky coffes. (result)
re booked mini sport and put it all back together, things just got worse it wouldent start so we decided to to leave it all set up with the carb at the front and put a spare carb on at the back to get us to mini sport. well i drove about a 1/4 of a mile and the noise was well lets say my ears are still ringing. so poped the bonnet to remove the front carb and it was frozen..
and thats were i am now. can any one tell me the best thing to do,

is there any way i can get this set up to work or should i put the charger at the back like the zmax kit..

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post some pics up dude so we can see what you've got and if there's anything glaringly obvious as to waht could be wrong.

keep the charger up front and blow through the carb in my opinion, much more scope for decent amounts of (safer) power..

I used to play around with superchargers in my Mini before I bought MOT... The link to eBay is not working anymore, so I would like to see some pictures! What kind of charger are we talking about?? A couple of mini-freaks in Norway are putting their chargers in the front...such-through and it works perfectly! But its a smaller charger than the M45. This one gives 0,8 bar:


If we are talking about the M45, I would do as bud666 suggests, and go the blow trough route, like THIS one!

Agree with bud need pics. But blow through setup would be best.

Found these pics of a front mount setup.

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi

ive started to put some pics on photobucket ill keep updating. have a look at my link. this pic is as the engine is running at the moment, with the supercharger just blowing into the engin bay. any pic or ideas would be a big help. thanks
that pic that minibar 72 has just posted is how the engine was at the first visit to mini sport. we couldent get it to run with the supercharger piped up. ( ran fine with the pipe disconected...

HELP ... LOL...

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Have you got the fuel pressure regulator vacuum line connected so that it will overcome the pressure from the blower whilst cranking?

Saul Bellow - "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Stephen Hawking - "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

ive started to put some pics on photobucket ill keep updating. have a look at my link. this pic is as the engine is running at the moment, with the supercharger just blowing into the engin bay. any pic or ideas would be a big help. thanks
that pic that minibar 72 has just posted is how the engine was at the first visit to mini sport. we couldent get it to run with the supercharger piped up. ( ran fine with the pipe disconected...

HELP ... LOL...

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1971 turbo mini van
1978 clubman estate
1971 clubman

is the carb the correct type?
is the supercharger working correctly? might be just giving a restriction than giving anything useful

David.

the carbs a hif44.
the supercharger seems to be working ok , plentey of blow..

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the carbs a hif44.
the supercharger seems to be working ok , plentey of blow..

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1971 clubman

is it a normal Hif44 or a turbo type? which are sealed

David.

reply to paul s. yes got the pressure regulator vacuum line connected .
and running a metro turbo fuel pump.
thanks boz

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hi david , as far as i now its a standerd hif44.

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if its standard and not the sealed turbo type, i might be hazzarding a guess this is where the problem lays...it is only a guess tho and should wait untill sumone elses comes along to confirm or disregard this

David.

the engine came with a sealed type carb but it kept flooding even with a new needle valve assembly in. with just the ignition on it was pumping fuel tho the jet like there was not a valve there. so was changed to a carb i had that was not sealed but did not flood. also i have noticed on the bottom of the charger is a hole where i read some where a valve should be, any one know? also what are the differences between a turbo and non turbo carb is it just the sealed dashpot. cheers

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It could be just a case of resealing your turbo carb, the choke seals are notoriuos for leaking as they go brittle with age.

This may be of some use..

On 3rd Jun, 2005 TurboDave said:

Here is the plumbing side of it for you... Nice and easy there!



You'll need to source a plenum or make one - you'll find information on making a plenum in the 'How To' section - in fact - almost all your answers are in that section. http://www.turbominis.co.uk/forums/index.php?p=vf&fid=5

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1/4mile in 13.2sec @ 111 terminal on 15psi

the engine came with a sealed type carb but it kept flooding even with a new needle valve assembly in. with just the ignition on it was pumping fuel tho the jet like there was not a valve there. so was changed to a carb i had that was not sealed but did not flood. also i have noticed on the bottom of the charger is a hole where i read some where a valve should be, any one know? also what are the differences between a turbo and non turbo carb is it just the sealed dashpot. cheers

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh167/boz-reb-2303/
http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt176/boz-reb/

1971 turbo mini van
1978 clubman estate
1971 clubman